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I think "NATO" will be rapidly be re-evaluated after the first nuke goes off in EU. Think it; US won't directly attack Russia mainland, neither Russia will att

I think "NATO" will be rapidly be re-evaluated after the first nuke goes off in EU. Think it; US won't directly attack Russia mainland, neither Russia will attack US mainland. But EU continental territories will probably be fair game for NATO. So if a nuclear war begins nukes will only be deployed inside EU countries, that will probably lead a NATO disband and / or some countries with nukes or even conventional kinetic weaponry, just starting to directly attack Russia somehow, without US "ok". You can't predict at this point how it is going to be played, but almost certainly, EU elites won't be happy knowing / discovering their land / cities / territories are going to be - nuclearly - taken to tabula rasa once again, and that would lead to decisions.

dragonwriter 4y ago
> I think "NATO" will be rapidly be re-evaluated after the first nuke goes off in EU. > Think it; US won't directly attack Russia mainland You might ask yourself some questions: (1) Why is having multiple independent nuclear powers as members an important part of NATO’s nuclear posture. (2) Why is the forward deployment of US troops and nuclear weapons (some slated for delivery by host-nation forces under nuclear sharing agreements) also an import part of NATO’s posture? (3) Why is the involvement of non-nuclear members of NATO in NATO nuclear planning an important part of NATO’s nuclear posture? NATO—including the US—isn’t going to nuke itself (most of the EU also being in NATO or in close security arrangements with it) and not Russia in response to Russia using nukes against the EU.
mcv 4y ago
> So if a nuclear war begins nukes will only be deployed inside EU countries, that will probably lead a NATO disband I really wonder why you'd possibly think that. NATO dwindles when it seems unnecessary, but as we've already seen, nothing unites NATO like a common enemy does. Keep in mind that NATO has spent its entire existence preparing for a possible war with Russia. The moment Russia starts throwing nukes, it will get nuked by NATO. It's the very thing the NATO nuclear doctrine is designed around: retaliation if Russia ever initiates a nuclear war.

dragonwriter 4y ago

> I think "NATO" will be rapidly be re-evaluated after the first nuke goes off in EU. > Think it; US won't directly attack Russia mainland You might ask yourself some questions: (1) Why is having multiple independent nuclear powers as members an important part of NATO’s nuclear posture. (2) Why is the forward deployment of US troops and nuclear weapons (some slated for delivery by host-nation forces under nuclear sharing agreements) also an import part of NATO’s posture? (3) Why is the involvement of non-nuclear members of NATO in NATO nuclear planning an important part of NATO’s nuclear posture? NATO—including the US—isn’t going to nuke itself (most of the EU also being in NATO or in close security arrangements with it) and not Russia in response to Russia using nukes against the EU.

mcv 4y ago

> So if a nuclear war begins nukes will only be deployed inside EU countries, that will probably lead a NATO disband I really wonder why you'd possibly think that. NATO dwindles when it seems unnecessary, but as we've already seen, nothing unites NATO like a common enemy does. Keep in mind that NATO has spent its entire existence preparing for a possible war with Russia. The moment Russia starts throwing nukes, it will get nuked by NATO. It's the very thing the NATO nuclear doctrine is designed around: retaliation if Russia ever initiates a nuclear war.