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I have some business stuff hosted on GCP. I'm actually starting to worry about that, I think it would be weird if GCP was discontinued but I don't know anymore?

IronWolve 4y ago
Make a business failover plan now, I already migrated everything off google, its just not worth losing your company over googles inability to be business friendly. Also a backup/failover plan to migrate to any vendor can also mean you can migrate to save money or outage. Or they ban your account by mistake, which on google seems to happen way to often, if you link it to your developer account, or your personal account.
- bombcar 4y ago
  This is a good practice for anything you depend on. And if you find something that you’re absolutely dependent on; either try to mitigate that or accept it and be aware.
ndiddy 4y ago
You might want to look into migrating: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-2023-as-deadline-to-beat-amazon-microsoft-in-cloud https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-202...
- metaltyphoon 4y ago
  I got tons of downvote by saying "I would put one service on GCP just out of principle". Wow, I guess I wasn't so crazy.
  - gumby 4y ago
    I guess you deleted your comment because I can’t see the context. What principle would that be?
    - metaltyphoon 4y ago
      It was using OP’s assumption about google not supporting services for long term.
      - hbn 4y ago
        Was the "would" in the previous comment supposed to be a "wouldn't"? If you don't think Google would support GCP long term, it wouldn't make sense to put one (and just one?) service on GCP.
- MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
  Aw heck, we're all in on GCP. How much stock can I put in an article from 3 years ago?
- hedora 4y ago
  I used to hear about their hard deadline more often. Will be curious to see if they follow through, and how many months they give small tenants to migrate off. They have no hope of meeting the 2023 deadline. They are at 10% market share, growing 1% YoY and half of number 2 (azure).
gumby 4y ago
Google’s, what, like #4 or #5 in cloud computing? And in a market where #1 has something like a third of the entire market. Doesn’t look good.
- mkl 4y ago
  #3, it seems [1], but less than a third the size of AWS and less than half of Azure. [1] https://www.capacitymedia.com/article/2afswwuvis94wy12r320w/news/google-cloud-growing-45-a-year-with-azure-at-40-says-canalys https://www.capacitymedia.com/article/2afswwuvis94wy12r320w/..., https://www.ciodive.com/news/aws-microsoft-google-cloud-market-share/623004/ https://www.ciodive.com/news/aws-microsoft-google-cloud-mark...
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
    Cloud is bigger than Azure. "Azure" includes Office 365 so MSFT can pretend Azure is 3x bigger than it is: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techtarget.com/searchcloudcomputing/news/252523245/Microsoft-Azure-revenue-continues-to-climb-despite-slowdown%3famp=1 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techtarget.com/searchcloudc...
    - Spooky23 4y ago
      They all play tricks. Google does flat rate ELAs, so customer retention and recurring spend is something to look for information on. Microsoft does alot of SaaS bundling and uses the EAs to drive revenue. (Buy an azure gift card vs. true up of whatever) At some point it becomes like a “no true Scotsman” argument. They’re all big, and all use their niche to drive spend. IMO HN commentators comparing GCP to Stadia are missing the boat. Likewise, MS will figure out how to monetize the bazillion O365 users with Azure.
    - dehrmann 4y ago
      https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=azure%20console,gcp%20console,aws%20console https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... I wonder how good of a proxy this is for actual use. I trust Google's numbers (unless Azure users are all using Bing), so I read this was AWS is by far the leader, with GCP possibly being second.
john2x 4y ago
I used to work in an small org running on GCP, and the most infuriating thing was they would very often deprecate services in favor of new ones. Almost every year we had to spend a few months migrating to a V2 of a service. That's months of resources being spent on work that the company didn't really need to do. This was a couple of years ago, I don't know if they are better at it now. But a quick search shows this looks like it is still a thing.
- solardev 4y ago
  Same thing happened to us. I wouldn't trust GCP anymore.

IronWolve 4y ago

Make a business failover plan now, I already migrated everything off google, its just not worth losing your company over googles inability to be business friendly. Also a backup/failover plan to migrate to any vendor can also mean you can migrate to save money or outage. Or they ban your account by mistake, which on google seems to happen way to often, if you link it to your developer account, or your personal account.

bombcar 4y ago
This is a good practice for anything you depend on. And if you find something that you’re absolutely dependent on; either try to mitigate that or accept it and be aware.

ndiddy 4y ago

You might want to look into migrating: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-2023-as-deadline-to-beat-amazon-microsoft-in-cloud https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-202...

metaltyphoon 4y ago
I got tons of downvote by saying "I would put one service on GCP just out of principle". Wow, I guess I wasn't so crazy.
- gumby 4y ago
  I guess you deleted your comment because I can’t see the context. What principle would that be?
  - metaltyphoon 4y ago
    It was using OP’s assumption about google not supporting services for long term.
    - hbn 4y ago
      Was the "would" in the previous comment supposed to be a "wouldn't"? If you don't think Google would support GCP long term, it wouldn't make sense to put one (and just one?) service on GCP.
MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
Aw heck, we're all in on GCP. How much stock can I put in an article from 3 years ago?
hedora 4y ago
I used to hear about their hard deadline more often. Will be curious to see if they follow through, and how many months they give small tenants to migrate off. They have no hope of meeting the 2023 deadline. They are at 10% market share, growing 1% YoY and half of number 2 (azure).

gumby 4y ago

Google’s, what, like #4 or #5 in cloud computing? And in a market where #1 has something like a third of the entire market. Doesn’t look good.

mkl 4y ago
#3, it seems [1], but less than a third the size of AWS and less than half of Azure. [1] https://www.capacitymedia.com/article/2afswwuvis94wy12r320w/news/google-cloud-growing-45-a-year-with-azure-at-40-says-canalys https://www.capacitymedia.com/article/2afswwuvis94wy12r320w/..., https://www.ciodive.com/news/aws-microsoft-google-cloud-market-share/623004/ https://www.ciodive.com/news/aws-microsoft-google-cloud-mark...
- deleted 4y ago
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- onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
  Cloud is bigger than Azure. "Azure" includes Office 365 so MSFT can pretend Azure is 3x bigger than it is: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techtarget.com/searchcloudcomputing/news/252523245/Microsoft-Azure-revenue-continues-to-climb-despite-slowdown%3famp=1 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techtarget.com/searchcloudc...
  - Spooky23 4y ago
    They all play tricks. Google does flat rate ELAs, so customer retention and recurring spend is something to look for information on. Microsoft does alot of SaaS bundling and uses the EAs to drive revenue. (Buy an azure gift card vs. true up of whatever) At some point it becomes like a “no true Scotsman” argument. They’re all big, and all use their niche to drive spend. IMO HN commentators comparing GCP to Stadia are missing the boat. Likewise, MS will figure out how to monetize the bazillion O365 users with Azure.
  - dehrmann 4y ago
    https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=azure%20console,gcp%20console,aws%20console https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... I wonder how good of a proxy this is for actual use. I trust Google's numbers (unless Azure users are all using Bing), so I read this was AWS is by far the leader, with GCP possibly being second.

john2x 4y ago

I used to work in an small org running on GCP, and the most infuriating thing was they would very often deprecate services in favor of new ones. Almost every year we had to spend a few months migrating to a V2 of a service. That's months of resources being spent on work that the company didn't really need to do. This was a couple of years ago, I don't know if they are better at it now. But a quick search shows this looks like it is still a thing.

solardev 4y ago
Same thing happened to us. I wouldn't trust GCP anymore.