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Make shadow profiles illegal.

• rwalle 4y ago
  That is a very realistic vision of how things work in this world.
  • _8j50 4y ago
    It sort of is... you convince your peers and vote.
• YeBanKo 4y ago
  Can be something like, companies can’t store PII without getting explicit user consent.
  • _8j50 4y ago
    They will do it without PII. It can be worded so that collecting any specific information pre and post-processed (to cover ML) about a person who is not a consenting user of your service allows individuals to sue for punitive damages and in exteme cases make it a felony.Any information, even anonymized information about individuals will be prohibited. However, if you use Google for example and agree to their ToS they can do whatever they want within reason, so long as the activity being tracked is related to the user explicitly interacting with a google service. So tracking cookies and all the weird shit they do is fine for their users, they just can't track users if the user visited hn.com and they did not explicitly consent to being tracked by google analytics, the hn.com admin can let you know it wants to allow the 3rd party service google to track you and get your consent. This stuff is possible, I despise all the fatalism. Us, the people that understand this at any depth just need to agree on it and speak very loudly and convince our peers, being defeated and hoping politicians figure out tech some day is silly. That's why I am trying to discuss this here.
• Nextgrid 4y ago
  GDPR would already outlaw those - the problem is that nobody is interested in enforcing it sufficiently to actually deter such behaviour.