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Sorry for being unappreciative but... is this... satire? I honestly don't know... 'easier way to test my ping than pulling up a terminal', ... so a non https w

Sorry for being unappreciative but... is this... satire? I honestly don't know... 'easier way to test my ping than pulling up a terminal', ... so a non https website that needs javascript is better than terminal-shortcut + <terminal>$ ping 8.8.8.8</terminal> (or whatever you want to ping, you also could set up an alias/function in your .bashrc to do something more complex)... can I hit that point home: "easier way than pulling up my terminal", answer: a non-https javascript needing website!!! >>> 'super simple: clone it to some device that's always on, compile it, set up some systemd stuff, and it's ready to rock on port 8180' "super simple"... sounds... super simple... installing rust nightly as we speak to build it /s this world of ours

andrepd 4y ago
I for one welcome the era of PaaS (ping as a service).
- goodpoint 4y ago
  ...for only $9 a month.
ipsum2 4y ago
How was it possible to read "easier way to test my ping than pulling up a terminal" but not finish the sentence to "especially when I'm on my phone or any other device that doesn't have a terminal"?
- userbinator 4y ago
  especially when I'm on my phone or any other device that doesn't have a terminal Mine does, and in fact I have used the ping command from it before. I highly recommend having a terminal app.
  - smabie 4y ago
    Why do you highly recommend it? Don't think I've ever thought while using a phone "damn I wish I had a Linux terminal handy"
    - userbinator 4y ago
      I suppose if you don't think of your phone as the general-purpose computer that it really is, then it won't seem obvious. But otherwise, I also recall using dig, netcat, traceroute, and a few other network tools a few times. Having a shell, even a root one, is one of those things that you don't need often, but when you do, you really do.
      - the_only_law 4y ago
        I mean I know what my phone is. I just do not want to use that interface for those sort of tasks. Tiny little screen, virtual keyboard that tries to hard to be clever, etc. Even browsing the web to read wikis and documents and stuff is a complete pain half the time.
        dinom 4y ago
        How I miss my galaxy S3! I'd hook it up to a proper display using an MHL cable then connect a Bluetooth keyboard. It was a sweet setup and the assorted tools (plus root shell) actually came in very handy. It could fill in for a laptop quite nicely. These days it seems there's no legitimate alternative to MHL... can any phones directly connect to a display anymore via wire? Or is the only option screencasting to a smart TV? FWIW, I generally like my appliances on the dumb (or open) side.
        MayeulC 4y ago
        A lot of phones can be connected to an external display via USB-C. Better supported than MHL (how many incompatible standards was MHL? 4?). Samsung has "Dex", their android desktop interface. Linux phones can generally offer a full DE, either the pinephone or Librem, or compatible phones that have a video out where you can install something likke postmarketos. Most phones also support miracast, and you can plug in a mouse/keyboard. I think the Charging in + keyboard + mouse + video out is clearer with USB-C. Sent from my Galaxy S4 ;)
- dicknuckle 4y ago
  Can't say I've ever felt the need to test ping from my phone other than finding out if my wifi AP was dead while I was in the attic troubleshooting. There's an app for that.
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  My phone does have a terminal, and I run ping in termux regularly.
- alrlroipsp 4y ago
  I mean most of us techies know better ways. On your phone you run for example Fing Fing iOS: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/fing-network-scanner/id430921107 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/fing-network-scanner/id4309211... Fing Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.overlook.android.fing&hl=sv&gl=US https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.overlook.a... With Fing App’s free tools and utilities help you: • Scan networks with Fing’s Wi-Fi & LAN network scanner and discover all devices connected to any network • Get the most accurate device recognition of IP address, MAC address, device name, model, vendor and manufacturer • Run WiFi and Cellular internet speed tests, download speed and upload speed analysis and latency • Browse internet outages in your area, ISP ratings, reviews and speed statistics • Advanced device analysis of NetBIOS, UPnP, SNMP and Bonjour names, properties and device types • Includes port scanning, device ping, traceroute and DNS lookup • Receive network security and device alerts to your phone and email
hatware 4y ago
Definitely has a "but why?" vibe to it. OP probably learned a lot getting this up and that's usually what motivates me to learn.
dicknuckle 4y ago
It's even easier to have a ping going in the corner of my laptop screen. Since the Win7 days I've used SimplePing, on my work Mac the app store wanted 99c for this privilege but there's a free one that does the same thing.
PNWChris 4y ago
Fair enough. I think technical users probably don't need this site, but I think there is value to be had (even for those technical users!). For a bit of context: I found myself using this site via my xbox's web browser to make sure my wifi latency is acceptable where I put the xbox. Also, my spouse and I just moved to a new place, so I used this site on my phone to get a quick idea of the latency on wifi in my spouse's office. There's tons of web-based tools to test your bandwidth, but I feel there just isn't a similar ecosystem of quick, web-based "ping" (well, latency, since I can't send ICMP packets from a web browser) tools. - RE: HTTP only, good point. I've set up certbot and the page supports https now. I am not certain how HTTPS will impact the latency measurements, it appears the results are typically a bit higher and occasionally much higher when using HTTPS. - I don't get the disappointment with the use of JS. It's just a bit of inline JS, easy to manually audit if concerned. JS is quite safe IMO and is a very powerful tool, it makes a rich universe of interactive applications possible in the humble web browser. I basically got into CS because of the fun I had creating things for and sharing things on the web.
- alrlroipsp 4y ago
  > so I used this site on my phone to get a quick idea of the latency on wifi in my spouse's office. Sure you did. But there's a whole category of phone apps called Wifi Heat maps, that would actually be "super simple" for a non-techie to use. People are commenting on your use of javascript, where you are arguing that you built a super simple solution. As many already pointed out, the ping command is already there and is more "super simple" to use than to self host a website to get a skewed HTTP "ping" from some cloud service...
goodpoint 4y ago
Looking at the readme I really thought it was satire: https://github.com/cjjeakle/network-monitor https://github.com/cjjeakle/network-monitor
thehappypm 4y ago
This isn’t Shark Tank. OP built something to share, not looking for seed funding or a Nobel. Relax!

andrepd 4y ago

I for one welcome the era of PaaS (ping as a service).

goodpoint 4y ago
...for only $9 a month.

ipsum2 4y ago

How was it possible to read "easier way to test my ping than pulling up a terminal" but not finish the sentence to "especially when I'm on my phone or any other device that doesn't have a terminal"?

userbinator 4y ago
especially when I'm on my phone or any other device that doesn't have a terminal Mine does, and in fact I have used the ping command from it before. I highly recommend having a terminal app.
- smabie 4y ago
  Why do you highly recommend it? Don't think I've ever thought while using a phone "damn I wish I had a Linux terminal handy"
  - userbinator 4y ago
    I suppose if you don't think of your phone as the general-purpose computer that it really is, then it won't seem obvious. But otherwise, I also recall using dig, netcat, traceroute, and a few other network tools a few times. Having a shell, even a root one, is one of those things that you don't need often, but when you do, you really do.
    - the_only_law 4y ago
      I mean I know what my phone is. I just do not want to use that interface for those sort of tasks. Tiny little screen, virtual keyboard that tries to hard to be clever, etc. Even browsing the web to read wikis and documents and stuff is a complete pain half the time.
      - dinom 4y ago
        How I miss my galaxy S3! I'd hook it up to a proper display using an MHL cable then connect a Bluetooth keyboard. It was a sweet setup and the assorted tools (plus root shell) actually came in very handy. It could fill in for a laptop quite nicely. These days it seems there's no legitimate alternative to MHL... can any phones directly connect to a display anymore via wire? Or is the only option screencasting to a smart TV? FWIW, I generally like my appliances on the dumb (or open) side.
        MayeulC 4y ago
        A lot of phones can be connected to an external display via USB-C. Better supported than MHL (how many incompatible standards was MHL? 4?). Samsung has "Dex", their android desktop interface. Linux phones can generally offer a full DE, either the pinephone or Librem, or compatible phones that have a video out where you can install something likke postmarketos. Most phones also support miracast, and you can plug in a mouse/keyboard. I think the Charging in + keyboard + mouse + video out is clearer with USB-C. Sent from my Galaxy S4 ;)
dicknuckle 4y ago
Can't say I've ever felt the need to test ping from my phone other than finding out if my wifi AP was dead while I was in the attic troubleshooting. There's an app for that.
yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
My phone does have a terminal, and I run ping in termux regularly.
alrlroipsp 4y ago
I mean most of us techies know better ways. On your phone you run for example Fing Fing iOS: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/fing-network-scanner/id430921107 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/fing-network-scanner/id4309211... Fing Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.overlook.android.fing&hl=sv&gl=US https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.overlook.a... With Fing App’s free tools and utilities help you: • Scan networks with Fing’s Wi-Fi & LAN network scanner and discover all devices connected to any network • Get the most accurate device recognition of IP address, MAC address, device name, model, vendor and manufacturer • Run WiFi and Cellular internet speed tests, download speed and upload speed analysis and latency • Browse internet outages in your area, ISP ratings, reviews and speed statistics • Advanced device analysis of NetBIOS, UPnP, SNMP and Bonjour names, properties and device types • Includes port scanning, device ping, traceroute and DNS lookup • Receive network security and device alerts to your phone and email

hatware 4y ago

Definitely has a "but why?" vibe to it. OP probably learned a lot getting this up and that's usually what motivates me to learn.

dicknuckle 4y ago

It's even easier to have a ping going in the corner of my laptop screen. Since the Win7 days I've used SimplePing, on my work Mac the app store wanted 99c for this privilege but there's a free one that does the same thing.

PNWChris 4y ago

Fair enough. I think technical users probably don't need this site, but I think there is value to be had (even for those technical users!). For a bit of context: I found myself using this site via my xbox's web browser to make sure my wifi latency is acceptable where I put the xbox. Also, my spouse and I just moved to a new place, so I used this site on my phone to get a quick idea of the latency on wifi in my spouse's office. There's tons of web-based tools to test your bandwidth, but I feel there just isn't a similar ecosystem of quick, web-based "ping" (well, latency, since I can't send ICMP packets from a web browser) tools. - RE: HTTP only, good point. I've set up certbot and the page supports https now. I am not certain how HTTPS will impact the latency measurements, it appears the results are typically a bit higher and occasionally much higher when using HTTPS. - I don't get the disappointment with the use of JS. It's just a bit of inline JS, easy to manually audit if concerned. JS is quite safe IMO and is a very powerful tool, it makes a rich universe of interactive applications possible in the humble web browser. I basically got into CS because of the fun I had creating things for and sharing things on the web.

alrlroipsp 4y ago
> so I used this site on my phone to get a quick idea of the latency on wifi in my spouse's office. Sure you did. But there's a whole category of phone apps called Wifi Heat maps, that would actually be "super simple" for a non-techie to use. People are commenting on your use of javascript, where you are arguing that you built a super simple solution. As many already pointed out, the ping command is already there and is more "super simple" to use than to self host a website to get a skewed HTTP "ping" from some cloud service...

goodpoint 4y ago

Looking at the readme I really thought it was satire: https://github.com/cjjeakle/network-monitor https://github.com/cjjeakle/network-monitor

thehappypm 4y ago

This isn’t Shark Tank. OP built something to share, not looking for seed funding or a Nobel. Relax!