I personally see that as his role in society, just like someone else in the companies role might be to grind 50 hours a week on making some shit telemtry servic

I personally see that as his role in society, just like someone else in the companies role might be to grind 50 hours a week on making some shit telemtry service for rocket engine computers to send data too. Some of it might be luck, some jobs are more desirable, but it's just how I see things. I think we're arguing whether or not "greatness" exists or is more something we invent, a mental construct. I personally think it's more of an illusion and some people are just "lucky" there job is to set a vision while others jobs seem more rudimentary...one can't exist without the other. The rich entrepreneur persona cannot exist without the minions below, and in that sense, it's an illusion to me. It's actually why I think the conversation was ridiculous in the first place given the subject of conversation. It was a very blaze way to talk about a rather important project...more than anything, I was just having a laugh about how far out humans can get.