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Where are the cultures that didn't hammer that into men? Cultures and societies are subject to the same kind of natural selection as individuals and species. C

Where are the cultures that didn't hammer that into men? Cultures and societies are subject to the same kind of natural selection as individuals and species. Cultures that are self sustaining, defensible, and expansionary are the ones that win out in the end.

amanaplanacanal 4y ago
I suspect the commonalities have to do with essentially all of our cultures being agricultural for thousands of years. Before that was half a million years of being hunter gatherers, a completely different lifestyle. And now we are moving into an era when almost all of us will be city dwellers. I expect our culture will change a lot during that transition.
- anonporridge 4y ago
  I don't think city dwelling is going to be the driver of change. We've been doing that for thousands of years. It's the automation of force that will drive change to how we view maleness. The increasing reality is that strong, aggressive males aren't nearly as necessary in the battlefield for the defense of societies. A 100lb woman can pilot a drone and drop bombs just as well as a 300lb linebacker of a male. Humanoid robots are rapidly entering the scene and will start to replace human soldiers and police officers as the ground units of power projection. eSports will start to overshadow the NFL as we start socially valuing individual human strength less and less in favor of tactical and strategic ability to control robots. Societies have always used young males as disposable members who are thrown into the most dangerous and lethal jobs for the simple biological reality that wombs are scarce and sperm is not. If all of the lethal work gets automated away (a fantastic thing!) then that will be one of the most drastic changes to human social order that has ever happened.
  - SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
    > A 100lb woman can pilot a drone and drop bombs just as well as a 300lb linebacker of a male. You are making the same mistake as the clowns that cry how you “can’t use your AR15 to stop the government”. Ignoring the reality of asymmetrical warfare, and failure of the strongest military or universe has ever seen failing to secure a state of uneducated farmers and merchants for the last 20 years… If your goal is to glass something - sure the 100lb recruits in the drone program are your go-to. We leveled two parts of Japan and it ended things, then the math changed with mutually assured destruction. But that isn’t how you actually take something over. You take things by putting your people on street corners. Going door to door. Preventing undesirable assembly. Securing travel and trade. Tanks and drones really suck at standing on the corner. The soldier isn’t as outdated as you suggest.

amanaplanacanal 4y ago

I suspect the commonalities have to do with essentially all of our cultures being agricultural for thousands of years. Before that was half a million years of being hunter gatherers, a completely different lifestyle. And now we are moving into an era when almost all of us will be city dwellers. I expect our culture will change a lot during that transition.

anonporridge 4y ago
I don't think city dwelling is going to be the driver of change. We've been doing that for thousands of years. It's the automation of force that will drive change to how we view maleness. The increasing reality is that strong, aggressive males aren't nearly as necessary in the battlefield for the defense of societies. A 100lb woman can pilot a drone and drop bombs just as well as a 300lb linebacker of a male. Humanoid robots are rapidly entering the scene and will start to replace human soldiers and police officers as the ground units of power projection. eSports will start to overshadow the NFL as we start socially valuing individual human strength less and less in favor of tactical and strategic ability to control robots. Societies have always used young males as disposable members who are thrown into the most dangerous and lethal jobs for the simple biological reality that wombs are scarce and sperm is not. If all of the lethal work gets automated away (a fantastic thing!) then that will be one of the most drastic changes to human social order that has ever happened.
- SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
  > A 100lb woman can pilot a drone and drop bombs just as well as a 300lb linebacker of a male. You are making the same mistake as the clowns that cry how you “can’t use your AR15 to stop the government”. Ignoring the reality of asymmetrical warfare, and failure of the strongest military or universe has ever seen failing to secure a state of uneducated farmers and merchants for the last 20 years… If your goal is to glass something - sure the 100lb recruits in the drone program are your go-to. We leveled two parts of Japan and it ended things, then the math changed with mutually assured destruction. But that isn’t how you actually take something over. You take things by putting your people on street corners. Going door to door. Preventing undesirable assembly. Securing travel and trade. Tanks and drones really suck at standing on the corner. The soldier isn’t as outdated as you suggest.