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Without knowing the financials of this deal it's hard to evaluate the ridiculousness of it. There's still generations alive that think highly of Bruce Willis,

Without knowing the financials of this deal it's hard to evaluate the ridiculousness of it. There's still generations alive that think highly of Bruce Willis, but I gotta imagine for Gen Z and younger he's just another guy in another movie. When Disney bought James Earl Jones voice for Vader that made 100% sense because Jones is Vader and Vader is Jones. But Bruce Willis? He's been in cool movies but he's nowhere near as important to a franchise as James Earl Jones. This feels a lot like Hollywood doing something because it can and is afraid of risk.

socialismisok 4y ago
Right. I grew up in the eighties, and I was culturally aware that Fred Astaire was important, but he held absolutely no draw for me. My kids will certainly recognize Willis but not care that he's in new material.
- WalterBright 4y ago
  Compare Astaire's dance movies with the awful ones they make to day, which are more a sequence of quick cut sweaty frenetic gymnastic fragments than dancing. I can almost hear the director yelling "More energy! Hit that line harder!" Astaire's movies would film the complete dance in one cut, and show his full body. His dances were about style, elegance, and complete mastery. See "Top Hat" and "The Gay Divorcee".
  - mhh__ 4y ago
    "Climax" is a dance-horror movie entirely consisting of french dancers rather than actors. Nothing like either movie mentioned but it is real dancing by pros (and a good horror movie)
    - WalterBright 4y ago
      Added it to my netflix queue!
  - socialismisok 4y ago
    Oh, 100%. The man was talented! I'm just saying that as a kid or young adult I wanted to see contemporary stars.
    - WalterBright 4y ago
      Having read his biography, I'm not so sure he was particularly talented. He worked his ass off. Very very few people are willing to work that hard.
Veen 4y ago
Why the fixation on younger people? People who aren’t Gen Z and younger still go to movies. It’s not a medium exclusively for young people.
culturestate 4y ago
> Without knowing the financials of this deal it's hard to evaluate the ridiculousness of it. I don’t find it ridiculous at all. Bruce Willis didn’t retire because he was old or bored, he retired because he has aphasia. This isn’t the next step in his career - it’s the next step in his estate planning.
helsinkiandrew 4y ago
> This feels a lot like Hollywood doing something because it can and is afraid of risk. Unfortunately I think that ship sailed a long time ago.. I don't think we're talking about a big budget Star Wars movie or the next block buster. Bruce Willis seems to be making appearances in a lot of "straight to video" movies for the past few years (9 this year alone). Having his name and face on the poster, does probably make it easier to sell to the public. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Willis_filmography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Willis_filmography

socialismisok 4y ago

Right. I grew up in the eighties, and I was culturally aware that Fred Astaire was important, but he held absolutely no draw for me. My kids will certainly recognize Willis but not care that he's in new material.

WalterBright 4y ago
Compare Astaire's dance movies with the awful ones they make to day, which are more a sequence of quick cut sweaty frenetic gymnastic fragments than dancing. I can almost hear the director yelling "More energy! Hit that line harder!" Astaire's movies would film the complete dance in one cut, and show his full body. His dances were about style, elegance, and complete mastery. See "Top Hat" and "The Gay Divorcee".
- mhh__ 4y ago
  "Climax" is a dance-horror movie entirely consisting of french dancers rather than actors. Nothing like either movie mentioned but it is real dancing by pros (and a good horror movie)
  - WalterBright 4y ago
    Added it to my netflix queue!
- socialismisok 4y ago
  Oh, 100%. The man was talented! I'm just saying that as a kid or young adult I wanted to see contemporary stars.
  - WalterBright 4y ago
    Having read his biography, I'm not so sure he was particularly talented. He worked his ass off. Very very few people are willing to work that hard.

Veen 4y ago

Why the fixation on younger people? People who aren’t Gen Z and younger still go to movies. It’s not a medium exclusively for young people.

culturestate 4y ago

> Without knowing the financials of this deal it's hard to evaluate the ridiculousness of it. I don’t find it ridiculous at all. Bruce Willis didn’t retire because he was old or bored, he retired because he has aphasia. This isn’t the next step in his career - it’s the next step in his estate planning.

helsinkiandrew 4y ago

> This feels a lot like Hollywood doing something because it can and is afraid of risk. Unfortunately I think that ship sailed a long time ago.. I don't think we're talking about a big budget Star Wars movie or the next block buster. Bruce Willis seems to be making appearances in a lot of "straight to video" movies for the past few years (9 this year alone). Having his name and face on the poster, does probably make it easier to sell to the public. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Willis_filmography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Willis_filmography