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At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a

At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.

nopenopenopeno 4y ago
I have been really looking forward to this. It’s a shame that the video is so awful! Why would anybody go to a coffee shop or public park to put on a VR headset? What were they thinking???
- sockaddr 4y ago
  Also watching him try to put that cup of coffee to his face was painful. You’d look like such a tool trying to press that cup against your headset. No wonder they cut that scene so quickly.
  - nopenopenopeno 4y ago
    According to the expressions on the other peoples’ faces, it seems like there was actually some awareness of how ridiculous it was. Those aren’t expressions of amazement. They’re more like “look at that guy trying to drink coffee with a VR headset on his face. What a tool!”
- squeaky-clean 4y ago
  Are the other customers with laptops supposed to look creeped out and angry at him? I imagine the direction they were aiming for is envy, but it looks like they want the weirdo to leave. It worked in making me interested in the product at least. A standalone headset with Linux and not by Facebook? Those details are all I needed to know regardless of any marketing video.
- chaostheory 4y ago
  Yeah, I think everyone agrees that the product is interesting, but the marketing is terrible. It’s like the opposite of Magic Leap
- tluyben2 4y ago
  I would and do. It’s a great conversation starter. I got projects and co founders out of it.
fredsmith219 4y ago
I agree 100%. They burst into the tech scene with claims that were clearly fraudulent. They have demonstrated that they have no problem lying, so why would anyone support them? https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2016/12/09/magic_leap_neither_magic_nor_leaping/ https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2016/12/09/magic_leap_neithe...
- flyinglizard 4y ago
  It’s a completely different group of people now. Nearly no one from the original management remained in Magic Leap, so I don’t think it’s fair to judge them by the actions of their predecessors.
  - MengerSponge 4y ago
    They kept the name, no? I don't begrudge new people wanting to make a new product out of the husk of a defunct company, like Ophiocordyceps. I'm skeptical of people who think the branding and marketing of V1 was A-ok though.
  - bozhark 4y ago
    Management? What about engineers?!
    - flyinglizard 4y ago
      Many left, others were laid off. Some remain. But they had some world class engineering talent (like in their optics - real domain experts they brought from other places and industries). The goals were unrealistic, the product was out of touch with the market (lots of money raised is going to do that 9/10 times), the top management were professional corporate creatures (not in a good sense). But some of the engineers were very good - just sent on the wrong mission.
  - duped 4y ago
    Some of the worst engineers I've known wound up there (and are still there). Not necessarily bad people, just borderline frauds. I don't trust their organization to do much credible work as a result.
aliqot 4y ago
Wow it has HN in the video! Anybody else notice that?
spoonjim 4y ago
If you think a Simula One VR is a substitute for a Magic Leap you probably should be reading more and commenting less about this market.
- bozhark 4y ago
  Magic Leap is vaporware. Got anything ‘real’ to compare it to?
  - spoonjim 4y ago
    It’s not vaporware, I’ve used it myself. Would I buy it? No. But it’s not vaporware.
darepublic 4y ago
Portable VR is not the same as AR though right? All notes on quality aside
- WaxProlix 4y ago
  It has a passthrough and - I think - augment mode.
zmmmmm 4y ago
> you can just get a Simula One VR except they aren't shipping yet .... I'm a big fan but you really can't count it as a comparison until its really in production. They have barely assembled prototype units yet let alone got the tech fully working. And even then, its a completely different thing. The magic leap is true AR with real world pass through and full hand tracking. Whether its any good or not I don't know but the use cases they are targeting - surgeons etc are not going to strap a SimlarVR to their head.

nopenopenopeno 4y ago

I have been really looking forward to this. It’s a shame that the video is so awful! Why would anybody go to a coffee shop or public park to put on a VR headset? What were they thinking???

sockaddr 4y ago
Also watching him try to put that cup of coffee to his face was painful. You’d look like such a tool trying to press that cup against your headset. No wonder they cut that scene so quickly.
- nopenopenopeno 4y ago
  According to the expressions on the other peoples’ faces, it seems like there was actually some awareness of how ridiculous it was. Those aren’t expressions of amazement. They’re more like “look at that guy trying to drink coffee with a VR headset on his face. What a tool!”
squeaky-clean 4y ago
Are the other customers with laptops supposed to look creeped out and angry at him? I imagine the direction they were aiming for is envy, but it looks like they want the weirdo to leave. It worked in making me interested in the product at least. A standalone headset with Linux and not by Facebook? Those details are all I needed to know regardless of any marketing video.
chaostheory 4y ago
Yeah, I think everyone agrees that the product is interesting, but the marketing is terrible. It’s like the opposite of Magic Leap
tluyben2 4y ago
I would and do. It’s a great conversation starter. I got projects and co founders out of it.

fredsmith219 4y ago

I agree 100%. They burst into the tech scene with claims that were clearly fraudulent. They have demonstrated that they have no problem lying, so why would anyone support them? https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2016/12/09/magic_leap_neither_magic_nor_leaping/ https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2016/12/09/magic_leap_neithe...

flyinglizard 4y ago
It’s a completely different group of people now. Nearly no one from the original management remained in Magic Leap, so I don’t think it’s fair to judge them by the actions of their predecessors.
- MengerSponge 4y ago
  They kept the name, no? I don't begrudge new people wanting to make a new product out of the husk of a defunct company, like Ophiocordyceps. I'm skeptical of people who think the branding and marketing of V1 was A-ok though.
- bozhark 4y ago
  Management? What about engineers?!
  - flyinglizard 4y ago
    Many left, others were laid off. Some remain. But they had some world class engineering talent (like in their optics - real domain experts they brought from other places and industries). The goals were unrealistic, the product was out of touch with the market (lots of money raised is going to do that 9/10 times), the top management were professional corporate creatures (not in a good sense). But some of the engineers were very good - just sent on the wrong mission.
- duped 4y ago
  Some of the worst engineers I've known wound up there (and are still there). Not necessarily bad people, just borderline frauds. I don't trust their organization to do much credible work as a result.

aliqot 4y ago

Wow it has HN in the video! Anybody else notice that?

spoonjim 4y ago

If you think a Simula One VR is a substitute for a Magic Leap you probably should be reading more and commenting less about this market.

bozhark 4y ago
Magic Leap is vaporware. Got anything ‘real’ to compare it to?
- spoonjim 4y ago
  It’s not vaporware, I’ve used it myself. Would I buy it? No. But it’s not vaporware.

darepublic 4y ago

Portable VR is not the same as AR though right? All notes on quality aside

WaxProlix 4y ago
It has a passthrough and - I think - augment mode.

zmmmmm 4y ago

> you can just get a Simula One VR except they aren't shipping yet .... I'm a big fan but you really can't count it as a comparison until its really in production. They have barely assembled prototype units yet let alone got the tech fully working. And even then, its a completely different thing. The magic leap is true AR with real world pass through and full hand tracking. Whether its any good or not I don't know but the use cases they are targeting - surgeons etc are not going to strap a SimlarVR to their head.