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>>the video includes a three-second outburst of six F-words, Having the F-word six times is enough for most parents to not want their 7 year old to watch. Even

>>the video includes a three-second outburst of six F-words, Having the F-word six times is enough for most parents to not want their 7 year old to watch. Even the author doesn't spell out the word.

JadoJodo 4y ago
This has been my struggle with YouTube, particularly gaming channels; I want to let my 9-year old watch fun Minecraft videos, but I have to “pre-watch” all of them since I have no idea which channels might have this kind of content dropped in the middle without warning.
- llanowarelves 4y ago
  Not exactly what you asked for but VidAngel is amazing for that on streaming. You get as broad or granular set of filters you want. From nothing blocked, to individual instances of swear words or suggestiveness->nudity are all there. Or even things like crudeness, smoking. Etc. Incredible detailed control if yoy want it. With easy toggles for the main categories. And you can see the instances of each of those on each episode based on what you have. It's listed out before you hit play. I have no affiliation, just thought it was cool for if I had kids.
  - minton 4y ago
    I use this and it’s better than nothing. I’m hoping for a day when AI is powerful enough to filter these out not by skipping them but by altering them. Subbing in family-friendly alternatives for curse words and maybe blurring or clothing the nudity. Obviously some scene will still need to be skipped entirely.
    - viraptor 4y ago
      I have absolutely no confidence in this. "family-friendly" is extremely context and culture specific. You'll get lots of people actively trying to push the boundary for fun. On the weird extreme of that are the Spiderman/Elsa videos. On the cultural extreme is Mr Rogers washing feet together with a black friend. Are we going to update the filters with time as well? Or would we get stuck with no toilets or flushing forever? There's a lot of old movies in my country where the nudity happened and it was extremely matter-of-fact - for example people go for a swim in the ocean so they're naked while they change. Those movies are way more family-friendly than what this filter would accept.
      - rendall 4y ago
        > Mr Rogers washing feet together with a black friend. A Black, gay police officer, at that! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Clemmons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Clemmons
    - llanowarelves 4y ago
      Yeah I agree with the part of making it easier to do some of this stuff, heavily machine-assisted, even generative like you said, but will need a human at the end I think, to guide/audit and give stamp of approval. Flavors guided by culture like viraptor said. It's one of those "I know it when I see it" things. To make sure nothing glitches, is weird, or the sum of parts not "off" somehow. (Trying to synthesize both ideas)
- zeta0134 4y ago
  EthosLab is one of my favorite Minecraft players for this reason. Pretty much all of his content is good clean fun. When he's editing, like for PvP arenas, he's pretty good at muting teammates if they are more liberal with their speech, so his own videos don't have anything offensive.
  - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
    ImpulseSV, GoodTimesWithScar, Grian, PearlescentMoon, BDubs... most (not all) of the Hermitcraft gang are PG. Oh, and Skizzleman. Actually, Imp & Skizz's channel is great all around.
    - springogeek 4y ago
      Imp and Skizz are fantastic, as are the whole hermit crew. Wasn't expecting to see them get a mention on HN but it's refreshing.
      - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
        I forgot to mention TangoTek. If you want a real good time, watch their Friday Night Stabby Stabby streams (they play Among Us). It's got a great group including a lot of the above mentioned folks.
- btilly 4y ago
  I am curious. What kind of harm do you think it does for kids to hear this speech? I've never seen anything that should worry me about it. And I say that as the father of 4.
  - zackkitzmiller 4y ago
    My kids are now 13 and 17. We've cursed in front of them and "allowed" them to curse since they were little. Language is language and words aren't inheriently "bad." The idea that a list of 7 words is some how offensive is asinine. My kids are exceptional students, smart, do all the same activites as other kids. All the other kids curse, too, they just pretend they don't in front of their parents. It's a very silly game.
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  - JadoJodo 4y ago
    > What kind of harm do you think it does for kids to hear this speech? I guess it depends on what you mean by "harm". Hearing it every once in a while, it is certainly unlikely to affect them. But if it's frequent enough (as seems to be the case in the gaming community), it will set a level of normalization that I don't want to instill in my kids. That being said, this is my own personal opinion, and no one else should feel obligated to share it.
    - btilly 4y ago
      I taught my kids that swearing is contextual. In contexts where they are not supposed to swear, don't. And then I model that. They've always known how to swear, but almost never do.
- cm2187 4y ago
  You can download the subtitles as a text file using youtube-dl. Should be faster than to actually listen to the video.
Ukv 4y ago
The video was age restricted to 18+ which, here at least, requires the watcher to prove their age with credit card or ID photo: https://i.imgur.com/hujQk37.png https://i.imgur.com/hujQk37.png Whether the video is for kids (under 13) or not is a separate flag. This type of video would generally be not-for-kids but not also age restricted.
- whartung 4y ago
  Naturally standards change. However, back in the day there was a forgettable, campy slayer film called, I think, “Student Bodies”. I saw it because it was playing at the $2 double feature second run movie house and had air conditioning in the summer. I pretty much went there every week regardless of what was playing. Anyway, in the middle of the movie, a fellow appears behind a desk and says something like “Everyone knows that movies with a R rating make more money. So in order for us to get that, ‘F… you’. “ And, that was apparently enough. Can’t speak to whether the tactic was effective.
daguava 4y ago
It was under a category which accepts that, and --- given the timespan, dominated such a tiny fraction of the video that it's almost unheard of.
cortesoft 4y ago
As the father of a 7 and 3 year old, I never understand the desire to shelter kids from swearing. Instead, I teach my kids that some words are swear words and are only to be used in certain circumstances. It has worked well for me so far.
sumeno 4y ago
YouTube's guidance says the following is ok: Abbreviated, censored, or light profanity (like “hell” or “damn”) in the title, thumbnail, or video. Moderate profanity (like “shit” or “bitch”) used in the video. Infrequent usage of strong profanity (like the "f-word”) after the opening or up to twice in approx. the first 30 seconds of the video; or strong profanity in a music video.
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>>the video includes a three-second outburst of six F-words, Having the F-word six times is enough for most parents to not want their 7 year old to watch. Even the author doesn't spell out the word.

JadoJodo 4y ago

This has been my struggle with YouTube, particularly gaming channels; I want to let my 9-year old watch fun Minecraft videos, but I have to “pre-watch” all of them since I have no idea which channels might have this kind of content dropped in the middle without warning.

llanowarelves 4y ago
Not exactly what you asked for but VidAngel is amazing for that on streaming. You get as broad or granular set of filters you want. From nothing blocked, to individual instances of swear words or suggestiveness->nudity are all there. Or even things like crudeness, smoking. Etc. Incredible detailed control if yoy want it. With easy toggles for the main categories. And you can see the instances of each of those on each episode based on what you have. It's listed out before you hit play. I have no affiliation, just thought it was cool for if I had kids.
- minton 4y ago
  I use this and it’s better than nothing. I’m hoping for a day when AI is powerful enough to filter these out not by skipping them but by altering them. Subbing in family-friendly alternatives for curse words and maybe blurring or clothing the nudity. Obviously some scene will still need to be skipped entirely.
  - viraptor 4y ago
    I have absolutely no confidence in this. "family-friendly" is extremely context and culture specific. You'll get lots of people actively trying to push the boundary for fun. On the weird extreme of that are the Spiderman/Elsa videos. On the cultural extreme is Mr Rogers washing feet together with a black friend. Are we going to update the filters with time as well? Or would we get stuck with no toilets or flushing forever? There's a lot of old movies in my country where the nudity happened and it was extremely matter-of-fact - for example people go for a swim in the ocean so they're naked while they change. Those movies are way more family-friendly than what this filter would accept.
    - rendall 4y ago
      > Mr Rogers washing feet together with a black friend. A Black, gay police officer, at that! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Clemmons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Clemmons
  - llanowarelves 4y ago
    Yeah I agree with the part of making it easier to do some of this stuff, heavily machine-assisted, even generative like you said, but will need a human at the end I think, to guide/audit and give stamp of approval. Flavors guided by culture like viraptor said. It's one of those "I know it when I see it" things. To make sure nothing glitches, is weird, or the sum of parts not "off" somehow. (Trying to synthesize both ideas)
zeta0134 4y ago
EthosLab is one of my favorite Minecraft players for this reason. Pretty much all of his content is good clean fun. When he's editing, like for PvP arenas, he's pretty good at muting teammates if they are more liberal with their speech, so his own videos don't have anything offensive.
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
  ImpulseSV, GoodTimesWithScar, Grian, PearlescentMoon, BDubs... most (not all) of the Hermitcraft gang are PG. Oh, and Skizzleman. Actually, Imp & Skizz's channel is great all around.
  - springogeek 4y ago
    Imp and Skizz are fantastic, as are the whole hermit crew. Wasn't expecting to see them get a mention on HN but it's refreshing.
    - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
      I forgot to mention TangoTek. If you want a real good time, watch their Friday Night Stabby Stabby streams (they play Among Us). It's got a great group including a lot of the above mentioned folks.
btilly 4y ago
I am curious. What kind of harm do you think it does for kids to hear this speech? I've never seen anything that should worry me about it. And I say that as the father of 4.
- zackkitzmiller 4y ago
  My kids are now 13 and 17. We've cursed in front of them and "allowed" them to curse since they were little. Language is language and words aren't inheriently "bad." The idea that a list of 7 words is some how offensive is asinine. My kids are exceptional students, smart, do all the same activites as other kids. All the other kids curse, too, they just pretend they don't in front of their parents. It's a very silly game.
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- JadoJodo 4y ago
  > What kind of harm do you think it does for kids to hear this speech? I guess it depends on what you mean by "harm". Hearing it every once in a while, it is certainly unlikely to affect them. But if it's frequent enough (as seems to be the case in the gaming community), it will set a level of normalization that I don't want to instill in my kids. That being said, this is my own personal opinion, and no one else should feel obligated to share it.
  - btilly 4y ago
    I taught my kids that swearing is contextual. In contexts where they are not supposed to swear, don't. And then I model that. They've always known how to swear, but almost never do.
cm2187 4y ago
You can download the subtitles as a text file using youtube-dl. Should be faster than to actually listen to the video.

Ukv 4y ago

The video was age restricted to 18+ which, here at least, requires the watcher to prove their age with credit card or ID photo: https://i.imgur.com/hujQk37.png https://i.imgur.com/hujQk37.png Whether the video is for kids (under 13) or not is a separate flag. This type of video would generally be not-for-kids but not also age restricted.

whartung 4y ago
Naturally standards change. However, back in the day there was a forgettable, campy slayer film called, I think, “Student Bodies”. I saw it because it was playing at the $2 double feature second run movie house and had air conditioning in the summer. I pretty much went there every week regardless of what was playing. Anyway, in the middle of the movie, a fellow appears behind a desk and says something like “Everyone knows that movies with a R rating make more money. So in order for us to get that, ‘F… you’. “ And, that was apparently enough. Can’t speak to whether the tactic was effective.

daguava 4y ago

It was under a category which accepts that, and --- given the timespan, dominated such a tiny fraction of the video that it's almost unheard of.

cortesoft 4y ago

As the father of a 7 and 3 year old, I never understand the desire to shelter kids from swearing. Instead, I teach my kids that some words are swear words and are only to be used in certain circumstances. It has worked well for me so far.

sumeno 4y ago

YouTube's guidance says the following is ok: Abbreviated, censored, or light profanity (like “hell” or “damn”) in the title, thumbnail, or video. Moderate profanity (like “shit” or “bitch”) used in the video. Infrequent usage of strong profanity (like the "f-word”) after the opening or up to twice in approx. the first 30 seconds of the video; or strong profanity in a music video.

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