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Here's my response from 10 days ago to this same story. 0 points by BMc2020 10 days ago | parent | context | prev | next [–] | on: Why are nuclear power constr

by BMc2020 4y ago

Here's my response from 10 days ago to this same story. 0 points by BMc2020 10 days ago | parent | context | prev | next [–] | on: Why are nuclear power construction costs so high? ... I opened all three of these, but did not read any of them I did a Ctrl-F for "subsid" (to find subsidy or subsidies) 0 hits I did a Ctrl-F for "decomm" (to find decommission or decommissioning) 0 hits Having read many of these types of articles before, I've learned some shortcuts on how not to waste time.

kragen 4y ago
You can in theory decommission naval nuclear reactors by letting them sink to the bottom of the ocean in a terrible, sad accident from which fortunately all the sailors were safely rescued. I don't know that anybody has done this; often the sailors all died. But it seems that even without taking decommissioning into account, naval nuclear reactors are not cost-competitive with other power sources. Looking for "subsidies" when we're talking about a military project doesn't make sense; the project is 100% taxpayer-funded unless some supplier is selling parts to the government at a loss. Far more likely, lamentably, is the opposite, the proverbial thousand-dollar toilet seats. Maybe it's relevant to the cost question that the Navy can buy diesel engines from half a dozen naval diesel engine vendors but has to commission custom nuclear power plants.
- BMc2020 4y ago
  You didn't read parts 1 and 2? You've had many chances since this propoganda is re-posted so frequently: Why are nuclear power construction costs so high? Part III – the nuclear navy (constructionphysics.substack.com) 104 points by gmays 5 hours ago | flag | past | 100 comments Why did we wait so long for wind power? Part I (constructionphysics.substack.com) 26 points by jseliger 9 days ago | flag | past | 4 comments Why are nuclear power construction costs so high? Part III – the nuclear navy (constructionphysics.substack.com) 4 points by bilsbie 10 days ago | flag | past | 1 comment Why did we wait so long for wind power? (constructionphysics.substack.com) 2 points by gok 10 days ago | flag | past | discuss Why aren't there economies of scale in building size? (constructionphysics.substack.com) 2 points by rwmj 21 days ago | past Where do economies of scale come from? Part II (constructionphysics.substack.com) 66 points by jseliger 23 days ago | past | 4 comments Where Economies of Scale Come From (constructionphysics.substack.com) 10 points by vwoolf 28 days ago | past How the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) Works (constructionphysics.substack.com) 44 points by jseliger 34 days ago | past | 15 comments Why are there so few economies of scale in construction? Part I (constructionphysics.substack.com) 95 points by danboarder 34 days ago | past | 84 comments Why are there so few economies of scale in construction? (constructionphysics.substack.com) 5 points by h2odragon 35 days ago | past | 2 comments How NEPA Works (constructionphysics.substack.com) 3 points by burlesona 41 days ago | past | 1 comment How the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) Works (constructionphysics.substack.com) 2 points by jseliger 42 days ago | past The Rise and Fall of the Manufactured Home – Part I (constructionphysics.substack.com) 158 points by samclemens 76 days ago | past | 174 comments The Rise and Fall of the Manufactured Home – Part I (constructionphysics.substack.com) 3 points by jseliger 77 days ago | past Nuclear reactor costs – US Navy Edition (constructionphysics.substack.com) 4 points by uncertainrhymes 88 days ago | past Why are nuclear power construction costs so high? Part III – the nuclear navy (constructionphysics.substack.com) 3 points by jseliger 3 months ago | past Why are nuclear power construction costs so high? Part II (constructionphysics.substack.com) 34 points by jseliger 3 months ago | past | 14 comments Why are nuclear power construction costs so high? Part II (constructionphysics.substack.com) 3 points by jseliger 3 months ago | past | 1 comment
  - xupybd 4y ago
    Just fyi, that formatting is very hard to read.
    - BMc2020 4y ago
      Hmm, tried to delete it, didn't work. Please don't read it.
  - kragen 4y ago
    You might want to leave a blank line between your paragraphs for less of a TIME CUBE vibe. You're still in the editing window, it isn't too late. No, I haven't read parts I and II yet. They look interesting, maybe I will. That still puts me ahead of you since evidently you haven't read any of the three!
- ncmncm 4y ago
  The Soviets scuttled a nuke sub that way, in shallow water off Novaya Zemlya. Putin has offered to raise and dispose of it "properly". The international Standard for "properly" appears to mean in deeper water.

kragen 4y ago

You can in theory decommission naval nuclear reactors by letting them sink to the bottom of the ocean in a terrible, sad accident from which fortunately all the sailors were safely rescued. I don't know that anybody has done this; often the sailors all died. But it seems that even without taking decommissioning into account, naval nuclear reactors are not cost-competitive with other power sources. Looking for "subsidies" when we're talking about a military project doesn't make sense; the project is 100% taxpayer-funded unless some supplier is selling parts to the government at a loss. Far more likely, lamentably, is the opposite, the proverbial thousand-dollar toilet seats. Maybe it's relevant to the cost question that the Navy can buy diesel engines from half a dozen naval diesel engine vendors but has to commission custom nuclear power plants.

BMc2020 4y ago
You didn't read parts 1 and 2? You've had many chances since this propoganda is re-posted so frequently: Why are nuclear power construction costs so high? Part III – the nuclear navy (constructionphysics.substack.com) 104 points by gmays 5 hours ago | flag | past | 100 comments Why did we wait so long for wind power? Part I (constructionphysics.substack.com) 26 points by jseliger 9 days ago | flag | past | 4 comments Why are nuclear power construction costs so high? Part III – the nuclear navy (constructionphysics.substack.com) 4 points by bilsbie 10 days ago | flag | past | 1 comment Why did we wait so long for wind power? (constructionphysics.substack.com) 2 points by gok 10 days ago | flag | past | discuss Why aren't there economies of scale in building size? (constructionphysics.substack.com) 2 points by rwmj 21 days ago | past Where do economies of scale come from? Part II (constructionphysics.substack.com) 66 points by jseliger 23 days ago | past | 4 comments Where Economies of Scale Come From (constructionphysics.substack.com) 10 points by vwoolf 28 days ago | past How the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) Works (constructionphysics.substack.com) 44 points by jseliger 34 days ago | past | 15 comments Why are there so few economies of scale in construction? Part I (constructionphysics.substack.com) 95 points by danboarder 34 days ago | past | 84 comments Why are there so few economies of scale in construction? (constructionphysics.substack.com) 5 points by h2odragon 35 days ago | past | 2 comments How NEPA Works (constructionphysics.substack.com) 3 points by burlesona 41 days ago | past | 1 comment How the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) Works (constructionphysics.substack.com) 2 points by jseliger 42 days ago | past The Rise and Fall of the Manufactured Home – Part I (constructionphysics.substack.com) 158 points by samclemens 76 days ago | past | 174 comments The Rise and Fall of the Manufactured Home – Part I (constructionphysics.substack.com) 3 points by jseliger 77 days ago | past Nuclear reactor costs – US Navy Edition (constructionphysics.substack.com) 4 points by uncertainrhymes 88 days ago | past Why are nuclear power construction costs so high? Part III – the nuclear navy (constructionphysics.substack.com) 3 points by jseliger 3 months ago | past Why are nuclear power construction costs so high? Part II (constructionphysics.substack.com) 34 points by jseliger 3 months ago | past | 14 comments Why are nuclear power construction costs so high? Part II (constructionphysics.substack.com) 3 points by jseliger 3 months ago | past | 1 comment
- xupybd 4y ago
  Just fyi, that formatting is very hard to read.
  - BMc2020 4y ago
    Hmm, tried to delete it, didn't work. Please don't read it.
- kragen 4y ago
  You might want to leave a blank line between your paragraphs for less of a TIME CUBE vibe. You're still in the editing window, it isn't too late. No, I haven't read parts I and II yet. They look interesting, maybe I will. That still puts me ahead of you since evidently you haven't read any of the three!
ncmncm 4y ago
The Soviets scuttled a nuke sub that way, in shallow water off Novaya Zemlya. Putin has offered to raise and dispose of it "properly". The international Standard for "properly" appears to mean in deeper water.