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title should be amended to read "so long as IBM is feeling generous." redhat managed to torpedo centos at the drop of a hat, so I have little faith they won't

title should be amended to read "so long as IBM is feeling generous." redhat managed to torpedo centos at the drop of a hat, so I have little faith they won't eventually come back to the table for seconds and find a way to make fedora miserable.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
The thing is, IBM/RH benefits from the community having at least the illusion of control, because then RH can ride off of other people contributing work and testing for free to Fedora, which then gets nicely packaged into RHEL and sold. If they squeeze hard enough to make the community drop Fedora then they have to do all of that work via people they actually pay to work on the product.
- stjohnswarts 4y ago
  tbf fedora is a nice distro if you want to be near the bleeding edge but not bleeding and don't mind updating often (every 6 months or so). I prefer arch but not everyone wants to be bleeding all that much.
  - seabrookmx 4y ago
    Yeah I like it when grub works ;) Kidding aside, I recently tried Fedora for the first time in years and it's been great. I wanted a newer kernel for the 12th gen chip in my Framework laptop, and loading a custom kernel (at least in the Debian-based distros I'm familiar with) is a total pain when you have LUKS encryption enabled. Gnome+Wayland has come a long way as well and things seem quite polished.
  - matheusmoreira 4y ago
    Fedora was pretty bad in my experience. Every major upgrade was a mess and left things in some sort of partial state. Had to reinstall everything to get a smooth experience again. Yum corrupted its own package database once. Do they even use it anymore? Arch Linux has been perfectly stable for years on my laptop.
    - Xylakant 4y ago
      Fedora has been using dnf for at least a few years. I used Fedora as a primary laptop OS before I stopped using Linux for $reasons at around Fedora 32. I can’t remember any particular issues updating as long as you kept within the supported update window (2 versions back IIRC). If I were to switch back to linux again, I’d pick it up again.
    - BenjiWiebe 4y ago
      I've in-place upgraded Fedora about 5 times (usually doing more than one version at a go) on my main PC and never had to reinstall more than a package or two. There may have been minor breakage a few times, but I've never had a major issue.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago

The thing is, IBM/RH benefits from the community having at least the illusion of control, because then RH can ride off of other people contributing work and testing for free to Fedora, which then gets nicely packaged into RHEL and sold. If they squeeze hard enough to make the community drop Fedora then they have to do all of that work via people they actually pay to work on the product.

stjohnswarts 4y ago
tbf fedora is a nice distro if you want to be near the bleeding edge but not bleeding and don't mind updating often (every 6 months or so). I prefer arch but not everyone wants to be bleeding all that much.
- seabrookmx 4y ago
  Yeah I like it when grub works ;) Kidding aside, I recently tried Fedora for the first time in years and it's been great. I wanted a newer kernel for the 12th gen chip in my Framework laptop, and loading a custom kernel (at least in the Debian-based distros I'm familiar with) is a total pain when you have LUKS encryption enabled. Gnome+Wayland has come a long way as well and things seem quite polished.
- matheusmoreira 4y ago
  Fedora was pretty bad in my experience. Every major upgrade was a mess and left things in some sort of partial state. Had to reinstall everything to get a smooth experience again. Yum corrupted its own package database once. Do they even use it anymore? Arch Linux has been perfectly stable for years on my laptop.
  - Xylakant 4y ago
    Fedora has been using dnf for at least a few years. I used Fedora as a primary laptop OS before I stopped using Linux for $reasons at around Fedora 32. I can’t remember any particular issues updating as long as you kept within the supported update window (2 versions back IIRC). If I were to switch back to linux again, I’d pick it up again.
  - BenjiWiebe 4y ago
    I've in-place upgraded Fedora about 5 times (usually doing more than one version at a go) on my main PC and never had to reinstall more than a package or two. There may have been minor breakage a few times, but I've never had a major issue.