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You are looking for the price like I was, and many pages are trying to snare you onto “speak to a specialist” links. Let me spare you the trouble, as you are lo
by IHLayman 4y ago
You are looking for the price like I was, and many pages are trying to snare you onto “speak to a specialist” links. Let me spare you the trouble, as you are looking for this page: https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/partner/magic-leap/store.html https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/partner/magic-leap/store....
If you’d rather not click (and I totally understand) let me tell you that the Leap 2 costs between $3200 for the base model and up to $5000 for the enterprise model, which gives you a better viewpoint.
- mey 4y agoPuts the price point in direct competition with Hololens.
- RajT88 4y agoIf both companies are successful (a big "If"), this means in some years, we'll be hitting another sci-fi milestone for what the future looks like. Thousands of dollars today, but in ~10 years, smartphone prices and hopefully smartphone battery life. It took a bit longer than we'd have liked, but like... Our present is starting to look like the future imagined back when I was a kid. It's very exciting. With a lot less Yakuza.
- happyopossum 4y ago> With a lot less Yakuza. Hey, we’re talking about the future - there’s still time.
- cercatrova 4y agoIt's interesting, the Cyberpunk style worlds were made in the 80s when Japan was still dominant, so people thought Japan would continue dominating. But that didn't quite turn out how we expected. So it's funny to see Japan still so prominently depicted in future settings, kanji on buildings and people with katana running around, but it's nowhere near like that in the real world.
- kortex 4y agoThey are still the 3rd largest economy in the world. Katanas would still be weird. Unless it's a mall ninja.
- dylan604 4y agoDoes a mall ninja ride a Segway?
- RajT88 4y agoSure, as long as they have a bunch of knives and guns and swords and shit. The original "Mall Ninja" story unironically talked about wheeling around in a golf cart. It's a short stone's throw to a segway from there. https://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/ https://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/
- dylan604 4y agoDoes the ninja need to be dressed in traditional ninja attire or can they cosplay as a mall cop?
- justinclift 4y agoTLDR. Some of the Mall Ninja's comments seem to have been prophetic though: > What good are the cops going to be if a shooter shows up at your > workplace??? How about your kid’s school, remember Columbine? I’ll > tell you what the cops will do, call the SWAT team and screw > around trying to locate the front door for 30 minutes, ... ;)
- wcerfgba 4y agoThis was hilarious, thanks for sharing!
- numpad0 4y agoIt’s not exactly like that but not nowhere near[1] ;) 1: Hatsune Miku on a Kabuki-cho billboard over news headline reporting US-Russia tensions over Ukraine(2014) https://twitter.com/kno2502/status/440101207596494850 https://twitter.com/kno2502/status/440101207596494850
- bathtub365 4y agoThis is the same thing people said about the HoloLens 1 at the same price point 6 years ago. I’m skeptical since neither of these are a consumer product and the price hasn’t moved much.
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- kristopolous 4y agoMaybe I'm out of the loop but is there any additional use case or function compared with such devices in say 1995? More lightweight, sure, higher pixel density, sure, but that's not a context that changes the offer. In actual human computer relationship and function, it just feels like Myron Krueger's Videoplace from the 1980s is being perennially reinvented. Please tell me how stupid and out of touch I am. I probably just don't get it
- ROTMetro 4y agoI think we are all working toward the same goal of making this our reality: http://milweesci.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/2/4/13247648/mannapdf.pdf http://milweesci.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/2/4/13247648/mannapd...
- onlyrealcuzzo 4y agoI just honestly don't think the average person wants VR. I suspect headsets will become a thing when they're cheaper than TVs - just because the the display will be much better. Combined with ear buds - I think it'll just be a way better budget TV experience for some. Other than that - I don't ever see it going anywhere near mainstream like cell phones or even smart buds.
- chaostheory 4y agoMagic Leap is just a zombie at this point. NReal has a better and more realistic strategy. Historically, Microsoft doesn’t know how to make revolutionary product lines profitable and sustainable long term. Kinect was an amazing concept with consecutive poor execution. My memory might be off but they also had 1st crack at iPod, and their current foray into both VR and AR are both underwhelming so far. MS does best when they wait and copy a proven concept. Even then success isn’t always guaranteed We still will be hitting sci-fi soon. Just not with those companies. I have more faith in Apple, Sony, and Meta. Google will try again and I would be surprised if Amazon didn’t try as well
- function_seven 4y ago> We still will be hitting sci-fi soon. Just not with those companies. I have more faith in Apple, Sony, and Meta. Google will try again and I would be surprised if Amazon didn’t try as well I just had a really weird realization when reading through your list of potential successors. ("Apple, Sony, and Meta"). There's only one name on that list I root for. Meta? Fuck no. Obviously not them. Nothing else to say here. Apple? Eh. Sure. I have no ill will against Apple. I have many reasons to continue admiring what they do, and I have some reasons to oppose them (the walls on the garden seem a little too high). On balance they've dominated consumer tech for the best reason: their shit is solid and innovative. SONY. It's been too long since they last lead technology and design trends. Sony was the Walkman, the CD, the Trinitron. There's never been a remote control as good as a Sony. They have a sleek-but-utilitarian design aesthetic. In the 80s and 90s, you just couldn't go wrong if you picked a Sony for your TV, stereo, or whatever. For some reason I really want them to be ascendant again. To have a resurgence the same way Apple did starting with the iMac in 1997.
- OliverM 4y agoI think the PS5 shows that they're doing a huge amount of things right. But they don't seem to have the same kind of _vision_ apple does (even if you dislike that vision). They still seem to value hardware over software while I think Apple sees them as inseparable parts of a whole.
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- thom 4y agoAre we really going to end up in VR worlds outside of gaming though? It seems a horribly inefficient way to do most non-physical tasks compared to just text or voice. Why walk somewhere when I can click a link? The attraction of headsets for me is the potential for an effectively infinite resolution, no-distraction desktop. But that desktop is still largely going to be single planes of text and widgets. And even then, I’m not wearing the thing on a bus so all the other interfaces still need to exist. Everyone seems desperate for anime Microsoft Bob and I just don’t see it.
- Dayshine 4y agoAren't we talking about AR not VR? Hololens is AR too. So this is for things like projecting onto surfaces or creating 3d models for presentation. Hololens's big example is elevator repair where it projects datasheets onto walls so you can see them without needing a spare hand to hold a phone/document.
- thom 4y agoYeah and I think those sorts of use cases are valid. I just thought the comment above was more about the SF depictions of VR (i.e. the metaverse) being close, which I think is fanciful.
- beowulfey 4y agoYeah, when you think about it, this is only 2-4 times the price of a high end laptop. If the tech is cool that’s not outrageous
- jerome-jh 4y agoSmartphone took off thanks to the capacitive touchscreen. Before that people were like "look at that weirdo with his/her bulky phone and stylus, he/she'd be better off with a notepad". VR headsets need a similar technological leap to become mainstream. It is not just price. The key issue is being able to see the wearer's eyes. This is the only thing that can solve the weirdness issue.
- blululu 4y agoThis history is a contraction of more than a two decades of continuous development. Watch the matrix (1998) and you will see small, stylish cell phones everywhere. The capacitative touch screen is important, but pretty much everyone who bought a gen1/2 iPhone already used a feature phone that they used chronically.
- Nextgrid 4y agoI'm not sure it's exciting. The cancer called advertising has already consumed consumer tech, the vast majority of people are complacent with the situation, and the only escape is real-life where cost, technological and physical limitations prevent the same level of advertising (yes there are billboards, but that's nothing compared to what digital advertising has become). VR would essentially remove all those limitations, and since people are complacent and clearly don't mind it, we'd end up in a world like this video depicts: https://vimeo.com/166807261 https://vimeo.com/166807261. Hell, Facebook or "Meta" is going all-in on VR for a reason.
- keyle 4y agoThe dream of consumer AR is dying slowly. It's a disruptive tech that's gone into sleepyland. Look at stable diffusion as a comparison, blows everyone's mind every day for 30 days, moving at an incredible pace, and for free... Sure hardware, vs. software but still, we're in different leagues.
- dylan604 4y ago>Sure hardware, vs. software but still, we're in different leagues. Interesting choice in the use of the comma. I know this comment leaves nothing towards the furtherment of the discussion, but it was just odd enough to make me have to stop. I know I typo/myspell, grammatically f'up, there/they're/their typo, all the time, so I'm not grammar pro myself, but just trying to see, if maybe, I can use the, comma, too.
- 314 4y agoIt's a Shatner-Comma, in the, wild.
- tsol 4y agoWhen I was a kid, a really good pc(like an Alienware) was 3200. Now my phone is more powerful than most of those PCs from back then. I think you'll see continue to see prices fall over time until adoption takes off
- dylan604 4y agoTo this day, you can't have the price of that PC subsidized or allowed for the price to be paid in installments with a 24 month contract like a phone. What would happen to the desktop market if they offered up an infinite payment plan that allowed for annual trade-ins/upgrades like phones? We used to do that with leasing companies for data room equipment, but I never saw it for normal user computers (not that I'm well versed in all manners computer leasing).
- WaxProlix 4y agoAt $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.
- nopenopenopeno 4y agoI have been really looking forward to this. It’s a shame that the video is so awful! Why would anybody go to a coffee shop or public park to put on a VR headset? What were they thinking???
- sockaddr 4y agoAlso watching him try to put that cup of coffee to his face was painful. You’d look like such a tool trying to press that cup against your headset. No wonder they cut that scene so quickly.
- nopenopenopeno 4y agoAccording to the expressions on the other peoples’ faces, it seems like there was actually some awareness of how ridiculous it was. Those aren’t expressions of amazement. They’re more like “look at that guy trying to drink coffee with a VR headset on his face. What a tool!”
- squeaky-clean 4y agoAre the other customers with laptops supposed to look creeped out and angry at him? I imagine the direction they were aiming for is envy, but it looks like they want the weirdo to leave. It worked in making me interested in the product at least. A standalone headset with Linux and not by Facebook? Those details are all I needed to know regardless of any marketing video.
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- dylan604 4y agoAre you saying the enterprise model gives a better viewpoint than the base model, or that the pricing alone gives a better viewpoint into the viability of Magic Leap product(s)? PS: that was rhetorical
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