Fair enough! And yeah, since OOP is everywhere, there's zero downside to getting better at it. > I've never found those to be as exciting as some people seem

Fair enough! And yeah, since OOP is everywhere, there's zero downside to getting better at it. > I've never found those to be as exciting as some people seem to. It's less about excitement (for me at least) and less about the hair pulling associated with reasoning about complex state. I find the more independent attributes an object has, the harder it gets to reason about, unless I can serialize the whole thing (which usually goes against encapsulation). I'd say that's the number 1 thing I do to get "better at OOP": have a healthy suspicion towards any long-lived object I can't serialize/deserialize using primitive types.