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Would anyone realistically expect a publicly traded company to give employees advance notice? In the age of near instant leaks to the press, I wouldn’t if I wer

by cebert 4y ago

Would anyone realistically expect a publicly traded company to give employees advance notice? In the age of near instant leaks to the press, I wouldn’t if I were in a senior management position. The folks working at Stadia should have seen the writing on the wall. Google has a track record of killing products and it was evident they were winding down Stadia months ago.

sixothree 4y ago
Replace employee with partner.
- throw_m239339 4y ago
  "collaborator" or is it already out of fashion?
  - Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
    "collaborator" sounds right for those involved with stadia and google
o0-0o 4y ago
- nexuist 4y ago
  ...are you forgetting basically everyone involved with Stadia takes home >$100,000/year? These are not exactly coal miners here. Everyone with any kind of software career has worked on a project that got canned.
  - MisterSandman 4y ago
    100k/year isn't an infinite amount of money, especially since many of these people live in California.
  - laylower 4y ago
    Hi man, have a little class here. 100k a year in SF or any major metropolitan center does not have the same purchasing power that it used to. If rent is 2,500 at least per month you do the math. They still have bills and children. Yes, they are not coal miners but they are not rich by any stretch.
    - uxp100 4y ago
      They vary between the top 15% and top 5% incomes. Maybe not truly wealthy, but if you can’t call them rich, who can you cal rich? Exclusively people you will never meet? (Also I’ve been in this situation, years ago, making SV money having projects suddenly canceled. It fuckin destroys morale, and despite what everyone says in this thread, despite the high cost of living, an entry level or a step or two up engineer salary at google will mean you pay off your loans and start building cash reserve very very quickly, never mind the stock grants, so you can just quit. And should, rather than linger around in a restructured team where everyone is kinda pissed.)
  - mplewis 4y ago
    What does someone’s salary have to do with their company showing them basic respect?
- brian-armstrong 4y ago
  They're not getting laid off though. The article mentions another team on a discontinued project had 4 months to find work at Google.
  - rchaud 4y ago
    Doesn't that just mean their layoffs were announced 4 months in advance, to give them time to interview elsewhere?
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- throw827474737 4y ago
  Don't get that, isn't it like that everywhere, does anything else make sense? If the decision is not final, why distract the workers who would now have a what-its-worth-if-it-maybe-ends thinking? And at the moment the decision is made the opposite, it doesn't make sense to let anyone keep working on it, so it is abrupt and surprising for most? Also, what is bad about it, sure it is a bit frustrating to trash work, but sometimes things change... for me, this never resulted in layoffs but there is always enough work for skilled people and they move to other projects in need (most times being the main reason for such decisions). Not at google?
- crayboff 4y ago
  I would understand your frustration if these were layoffs, but the article doesn't indicate that at all. They also aren't immediately being kicked out of their jobs, the work is just going to wind down over the next few months until January. This article is telling us that Stadia employees were given a 3+ month heads up that their division would close in January. Instead of letting that news leak in a way that Google couldn't control, it decided to make a press release after informing their workers. That's very humane in my book
vba616 4y ago
>The folks working at Stadia should have seen the writing on the wall. I'm not sure that's fair. From not quite three weeks ago, on 9to5google regarding Stadia: "it’s really not normal for Google to “kill” products unless there’s some form of replacement, despite what the meme says"

by cebert 4y ago

sixothree 4y ago

Replace employee with partner.

throw_m239339 4y ago
"collaborator" or is it already out of fashion?
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
  "collaborator" sounds right for those involved with stadia and google

o0-0o 4y ago

nexuist 4y ago
...are you forgetting basically everyone involved with Stadia takes home >$100,000/year? These are not exactly coal miners here. Everyone with any kind of software career has worked on a project that got canned.
- MisterSandman 4y ago
  100k/year isn't an infinite amount of money, especially since many of these people live in California.
- laylower 4y ago
  Hi man, have a little class here. 100k a year in SF or any major metropolitan center does not have the same purchasing power that it used to. If rent is 2,500 at least per month you do the math. They still have bills and children. Yes, they are not coal miners but they are not rich by any stretch.
  - uxp100 4y ago
    They vary between the top 15% and top 5% incomes. Maybe not truly wealthy, but if you can’t call them rich, who can you cal rich? Exclusively people you will never meet? (Also I’ve been in this situation, years ago, making SV money having projects suddenly canceled. It fuckin destroys morale, and despite what everyone says in this thread, despite the high cost of living, an entry level or a step or two up engineer salary at google will mean you pay off your loans and start building cash reserve very very quickly, never mind the stock grants, so you can just quit. And should, rather than linger around in a restructured team where everyone is kinda pissed.)
- mplewis 4y ago
  What does someone’s salary have to do with their company showing them basic respect?
brian-armstrong 4y ago
They're not getting laid off though. The article mentions another team on a discontinued project had 4 months to find work at Google.
- rchaud 4y ago
  Doesn't that just mean their layoffs were announced 4 months in advance, to give them time to interview elsewhere?
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throw827474737 4y ago
Don't get that, isn't it like that everywhere, does anything else make sense? If the decision is not final, why distract the workers who would now have a what-its-worth-if-it-maybe-ends thinking? And at the moment the decision is made the opposite, it doesn't make sense to let anyone keep working on it, so it is abrupt and surprising for most? Also, what is bad about it, sure it is a bit frustrating to trash work, but sometimes things change... for me, this never resulted in layoffs but there is always enough work for skilled people and they move to other projects in need (most times being the main reason for such decisions). Not at google?
crayboff 4y ago
I would understand your frustration if these were layoffs, but the article doesn't indicate that at all. They also aren't immediately being kicked out of their jobs, the work is just going to wind down over the next few months until January. This article is telling us that Stadia employees were given a 3+ month heads up that their division would close in January. Instead of letting that news leak in a way that Google couldn't control, it decided to make a press release after informing their workers. That's very humane in my book

vba616 4y ago

>The folks working at Stadia should have seen the writing on the wall. I'm not sure that's fair. From not quite three weeks ago, on 9to5google regarding Stadia: "it’s really not normal for Google to “kill” products unless there’s some form of replacement, despite what the meme says"