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then you probably just started...I don't mean the first few weeks after you launch...there is plenty of things to do then. I mean that period for all sites aft

by vaksel 15y ago

then you probably just started...I don't mean the first few weeks after you launch...there is plenty of things to do then. I mean that period for all sites after the launch coverage, the time where your traffic goes down to almost 0. Who to meet/who to talk to...should have been done prior to launch. optimizing text? it takes a while to do a/b testing if your traffic is tiny...same goes for seeing results from marketing campaigns. updating the blog? that takes a few hours each week. I mean sure, there is plenty of things to keep you busy, but most of it is just busy work you assign yourself because you are thinking "hey, I'm doing a startup, I should be doing something"

digitalengineer 15y ago
I am just getting started indeed. However, I talked to a lot of potential users and did the research before I started. Checked out the legal stuff, negotiated with lawyers and developers. But I don't stop talking / researching now I'm actually running it. I'm asking (potential) users for feedback all the time. I'm planning a new price-strategy, meeting a former competitor, talking to models and to commercial photographers the next two weeks. It's amazing how one talk leads to the other. Also because I'm on a tight budget I try to help other people so they can help me out. Blogging about it as well: http://royfreemod.tumblr.com/ http://royfreemod.tumblr.com/
AznHisoka 15y ago
if your traffic is tiny then shouldn't you be doing marketing and promotion?
martinkallstrom 15y ago
You must be joking right? Except you're not, which makes it sad instead of funny. It must be very comfortable to not see the endless opportunities in increasing traction for your service after launch. Not even bothering to commit code any longer, since it was perfect at launch. Or doing marketing, sales, community and customer support, PR, ops, paying bills, sending invoices, handling complaints, bookkeeping, etc etc. I never ever had the problem to keep myself busy, the problem is always prioritizing among the plethora of tasks you need to do and accepting the fact that you never will be able to do all of them.
- vaksel 15y ago
  I did say marketing/sales is the exception. Not bothering to commit code? If it works, and you don't have actual customers yet? Then yes...it's just busy work at that point. Community/Customer Support? I dunno about you, but customer support is only required for less than 1% of users. And even then it's usually a case of 1-2 sentences. Paying bills? How many bills do you have as a startup?
  - martinkallstrom 15y ago
    Hundreds. Please stop diluting the startup term with your hobby projects.
    - vaksel 15y ago
      We are talking about fresh startups, that are just getting launched. Twingly has been in business for 6 years. And even then, "hundreds" of bills is crap...unless of course you count every purchase on your credit card statement as a "bill"

by vaksel 15y ago

digitalengineer 15y ago

I am just getting started indeed. However, I talked to a lot of potential users and did the research before I started. Checked out the legal stuff, negotiated with lawyers and developers. But I don't stop talking / researching now I'm actually running it. I'm asking (potential) users for feedback all the time. I'm planning a new price-strategy, meeting a former competitor, talking to models and to commercial photographers the next two weeks. It's amazing how one talk leads to the other. Also because I'm on a tight budget I try to help other people so they can help me out. Blogging about it as well: http://royfreemod.tumblr.com/ http://royfreemod.tumblr.com/

AznHisoka 15y ago

if your traffic is tiny then shouldn't you be doing marketing and promotion?

martinkallstrom 15y ago

You must be joking right? Except you're not, which makes it sad instead of funny. It must be very comfortable to not see the endless opportunities in increasing traction for your service after launch. Not even bothering to commit code any longer, since it was perfect at launch. Or doing marketing, sales, community and customer support, PR, ops, paying bills, sending invoices, handling complaints, bookkeeping, etc etc. I never ever had the problem to keep myself busy, the problem is always prioritizing among the plethora of tasks you need to do and accepting the fact that you never will be able to do all of them.

vaksel 15y ago
I did say marketing/sales is the exception. Not bothering to commit code? If it works, and you don't have actual customers yet? Then yes...it's just busy work at that point. Community/Customer Support? I dunno about you, but customer support is only required for less than 1% of users. And even then it's usually a case of 1-2 sentences. Paying bills? How many bills do you have as a startup?
- martinkallstrom 15y ago
  Hundreds. Please stop diluting the startup term with your hobby projects.
  - vaksel 15y ago
    We are talking about fresh startups, that are just getting launched. Twingly has been in business for 6 years. And even then, "hundreds" of bills is crap...unless of course you count every purchase on your credit card statement as a "bill"