All of the tech I mentioned is either operating in pilot studies or full scale systems. Both combined as in renewables + storage, not wind + solar. You got way

All of the tech I mentioned is either operating in pilot studies or full scale systems. Both combined as in renewables + storage, not wind + solar. You got way too much set phrases and trite political cliches going on for any meaningful discussion. Solar, wind and storage are here today, they are cheaper than coal, nuclear and gas, even WITHOUT externalised costs of climate change, and long term storage. The people that are dangerous are the ones that want to make energy politics a political game, and those that want to make as much personal profit from it as possible.