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I live in Montreal. One thing that is remarkable here is that even with 2M people, there are no ghettoes. Rich neighborhoods are generally mixed in with poorer

I live in Montreal. One thing that is remarkable here is that even with 2M people, there are no ghettoes. Rich neighborhoods are generally mixed in with poorer ones. It's a great city to live in and to raise a family.

caiob 4y ago
johnatwork 4y ago
I would not raise a family in Hochelaga-Maisonneuve
- MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
  HM is steadily gentrifying though. Montreal North has a pretty shit reputation. I remember there were riots there a few years ago and one of the journalists who was sent to cover it was relieved of his camera by some local residents. He wasn't even an outsider, its the neighbourhood they grew up in.
gdsdfe 4y ago
crime is on the rise, there's shootings and stabbing every week ... some neighbourhood are not save during night time. I'm not sure we're talking about the same Montreal here
- betaby 4y ago
  Compared with the same-sized US cities Montreal is OK. However safety wise it's not the same Montreal it used to be 10 years ago.
  - gdsdfe 4y ago
    I don't think the US is the example to follow here ... you want mass shootings every week? this is like saying well you can put your hand in boiling water after all it's not as hot as the sun lol
    - betaby 4y ago
      But that's typical narrative in Canada in general - 'look at least it's not bad compared to USA'.
      - gdsdfe 4y ago
        it's our only neighbour but we'll always look good if we compare ourself with the worst
- manux 4y ago
  Not really no, there's been a bump which studies seem to agree is an aftereffect of COVID, but the media is also paying more attention to it. There's always been some amount of shootings and stabbings in Montreal, and 99% of Montreal is safe during night time. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2021001/article/00013-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2021001/article... https://spvm.qc.ca/upload/02/2021_Activity_Report_SPVM_EN_VF.PDF https://spvm.qc.ca/upload/02/2021_Activity_Report_SPVM_EN_VF...
  - gdsdfe 4y ago
    euh thanks for proving my point lol have you read the report ? "À Montréal, en 2021, ceux-ci ont augmenté de 17,3 % par rapport à la moyenne de 2016 à 2020. Les homicides et les tentatives de meurtre ont augmenté de façon importante et la problématique de la violence armée contribue très certainement à ce portrait. En effet, la moitié des homicides et des tentatives de meurtre commis sur le territoire du SPVM en 2021 impliquait la présence ou l’utilisation d’une arme à feu (voir tableau Armes à feu). La problématique de la violence armée demeure au centre des préoccupations du SPVM. "
    - martin_drapeau 4y ago
      Yes, it has increased but remains low compared to other cities in Canada. Neverthless, glad the SPVM is taking that seriously. Homicide rate per 100,000 population in 2021 [1]: - Montreal 1.11 - Toronto 2.08 - Vancouver 2.16 The US average hovers around 5 [2]. [1] https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510007101&pickMembers%5B0%5D=2.2&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2017&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2021&referencePeriods=20170101%2C20210101 https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=351000... [2] https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/murder-homicide-rate https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/murd...
cantSpellSober 4y ago
What do you mean by "ghetto" specifically? ~35% of Canada's low-income neighborhoods are in Montreal https://www.signesvitaux.ca/no-poverty https://www.signesvitaux.ca/no-poverty
Trias11 4y ago
Besides absolutely miserable winters, french-enfrocement for businesses and chronic low-ball salaries for high tech jobs. However summers are lovely albeit short, old Montreal is cute, and yes, cousine is delicious.
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caiob 4y ago

johnatwork 4y ago

I would not raise a family in Hochelaga-Maisonneuve

MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
HM is steadily gentrifying though. Montreal North has a pretty shit reputation. I remember there were riots there a few years ago and one of the journalists who was sent to cover it was relieved of his camera by some local residents. He wasn't even an outsider, its the neighbourhood they grew up in.

gdsdfe 4y ago

crime is on the rise, there's shootings and stabbing every week ... some neighbourhood are not save during night time. I'm not sure we're talking about the same Montreal here

betaby 4y ago
Compared with the same-sized US cities Montreal is OK. However safety wise it's not the same Montreal it used to be 10 years ago.
- gdsdfe 4y ago
  I don't think the US is the example to follow here ... you want mass shootings every week? this is like saying well you can put your hand in boiling water after all it's not as hot as the sun lol
  - betaby 4y ago
    But that's typical narrative in Canada in general - 'look at least it's not bad compared to USA'.
    - gdsdfe 4y ago
      it's our only neighbour but we'll always look good if we compare ourself with the worst
manux 4y ago
Not really no, there's been a bump which studies seem to agree is an aftereffect of COVID, but the media is also paying more attention to it. There's always been some amount of shootings and stabbings in Montreal, and 99% of Montreal is safe during night time. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2021001/article/00013-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2021001/article... https://spvm.qc.ca/upload/02/2021_Activity_Report_SPVM_EN_VF.PDF https://spvm.qc.ca/upload/02/2021_Activity_Report_SPVM_EN_VF...
- gdsdfe 4y ago
  euh thanks for proving my point lol have you read the report ? "À Montréal, en 2021, ceux-ci ont augmenté de 17,3 % par rapport à la moyenne de 2016 à 2020. Les homicides et les tentatives de meurtre ont augmenté de façon importante et la problématique de la violence armée contribue très certainement à ce portrait. En effet, la moitié des homicides et des tentatives de meurtre commis sur le territoire du SPVM en 2021 impliquait la présence ou l’utilisation d’une arme à feu (voir tableau Armes à feu). La problématique de la violence armée demeure au centre des préoccupations du SPVM. "
  - martin_drapeau 4y ago
    Yes, it has increased but remains low compared to other cities in Canada. Neverthless, glad the SPVM is taking that seriously. Homicide rate per 100,000 population in 2021 [1]: - Montreal 1.11 - Toronto 2.08 - Vancouver 2.16 The US average hovers around 5 [2]. [1] https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510007101&pickMembers%5B0%5D=2.2&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2017&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2021&referencePeriods=20170101%2C20210101 https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=351000... [2] https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/murder-homicide-rate https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/murd...

cantSpellSober 4y ago

What do you mean by "ghetto" specifically? ~35% of Canada's low-income neighborhoods are in Montreal https://www.signesvitaux.ca/no-poverty https://www.signesvitaux.ca/no-poverty

Trias11 4y ago

Besides absolutely miserable winters, french-enfrocement for businesses and chronic low-ball salaries for high tech jobs. However summers are lovely albeit short, old Montreal is cute, and yes, cousine is delicious.

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