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I beg do differ. When I was a kid I used to have a YouTube channel with AdSense. Difference being I actually read the ToS and decided that it would be my parent

I beg do differ. When I was a kid I used to have a YouTube channel with AdSense. Difference being I actually read the ToS and decided that it would be my parents channel, only I would be recording. Never clicked on my channels ads (in fact that's when I started using AdBlockers, for the sole purpose of not generating fraudulent ad revenue). Reading at 16 years old is not that hard. I created that YouTube channel much earlier than that. I also don't believe that as I aged I have magically understood better the worlds boundaries and limits. Mind you, 16 years old is enough to drive in some places. Enough to work in others. And also enough to drink in some others. It's just not that young and people should take responsibilities for their actions. Principles and values are something that's established early on in someone's life. If someone doesn't care for defrauding a company of $80 when they are 16 years old, I don't honestly believe they deserve a second chance.

xboxnolifes 4y ago
Are you making the claim that since you didn't make a mistake at 16 that no other 16 yo can make mistakes? As well as the claim that any mistakes made at 16 means that the person will forever repeat those same mistakes for life?
- Devasta 4y ago
  He spent his teenage years reading terms and conditions, let not pretend he didn't make mistakes.
  - f1shy 4y ago
    Best possible response. Thank you.
  - doodlesdev 4y ago
    > He spent his teenage years reading terms and conditions I spent 15 minutes or so reading a document which I'm obligated to read to sign a contract and discovered I myself couldn't do it and so passed that to someone else. > lets not pretend he didn't make mistakes That's true. I do have multiple regrets too. Reading terms of services isn't one though.
- doodlesdev 4y ago
  > Are you making the claim that since you didn't make a mistake at 16 that no other 16 yo can make mistakes? No. > As well as the claim that any mistakes made at 16 means that the person will forever repeat those same mistakes for life? No. I said that since I didn't make that mistake much before 16 years old (13 or so) then it's possible for a 16 years old to not make the same mistake. That's about reading ToS, defrauding Google is a whole other can of worms. I also didn't say they will make the same mistakes for life, only that they shouldn't get another chance. Google has no reason from their point of view to give access to their platform to someone who once tried to defraud them and put them in several liabilities related to child labor and exploitation.
rideontime 4y ago
but... you also committed fraud, you just got away with it...
- doodlesdev 4y ago
  What fraud did I commit? There's nothing in Google's terms of service stating I can't appear in my parents channel. The money went to them, not me, I never saw a dime. No wrong information was sent to Google. In fact when we were considering AdWords we got in touch with a local AdWords representative (yes, Google has support, but only for the business they care about) and we talked about a lot of this stuff. Please tell me if I'm missing something and I'll be happy to retract what I've said.
stjohnswarts 4y ago
This idea of never forgive, never forget is why the USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world. Punishment is the singular goal, and rehabilitation is considered weakness. This kind of thinking is antisocial and serves no purpose other than some kind of revenge fantasy.
- lupire 4y ago
  Nah, US incarcerated is due to deep-seated racism and profit motive.
- pazimzadeh 4y ago
  I think that's somewhat true except in business/entrepreneurship, where the US seems way more forgiving to failure than Europe. Bankruptcy is also more common and it seems to me that people in the US respect having tried hard and failed hard more than having no failures on your resume.
- doodlesdev 4y ago
  I never talked about incarceration. I don't live in the United States and I am not American. I do not condone the american incarceration system. > This kind of thinking is antisocial and serves no purpose other than some kind of revenge fantasy. When it comes to putting someone in prison I agree 100%. When it comes to the right of a bussiness to reject a customer I disagree.

xboxnolifes 4y ago

Are you making the claim that since you didn't make a mistake at 16 that no other 16 yo can make mistakes? As well as the claim that any mistakes made at 16 means that the person will forever repeat those same mistakes for life?

Devasta 4y ago
He spent his teenage years reading terms and conditions, let not pretend he didn't make mistakes.
- f1shy 4y ago
  Best possible response. Thank you.
- doodlesdev 4y ago
  > He spent his teenage years reading terms and conditions I spent 15 minutes or so reading a document which I'm obligated to read to sign a contract and discovered I myself couldn't do it and so passed that to someone else. > lets not pretend he didn't make mistakes That's true. I do have multiple regrets too. Reading terms of services isn't one though.
doodlesdev 4y ago
> Are you making the claim that since you didn't make a mistake at 16 that no other 16 yo can make mistakes? No. > As well as the claim that any mistakes made at 16 means that the person will forever repeat those same mistakes for life? No. I said that since I didn't make that mistake much before 16 years old (13 or so) then it's possible for a 16 years old to not make the same mistake. That's about reading ToS, defrauding Google is a whole other can of worms. I also didn't say they will make the same mistakes for life, only that they shouldn't get another chance. Google has no reason from their point of view to give access to their platform to someone who once tried to defraud them and put them in several liabilities related to child labor and exploitation.

rideontime 4y ago

but... you also committed fraud, you just got away with it...

doodlesdev 4y ago
What fraud did I commit? There's nothing in Google's terms of service stating I can't appear in my parents channel. The money went to them, not me, I never saw a dime. No wrong information was sent to Google. In fact when we were considering AdWords we got in touch with a local AdWords representative (yes, Google has support, but only for the business they care about) and we talked about a lot of this stuff. Please tell me if I'm missing something and I'll be happy to retract what I've said.

stjohnswarts 4y ago

This idea of never forgive, never forget is why the USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world. Punishment is the singular goal, and rehabilitation is considered weakness. This kind of thinking is antisocial and serves no purpose other than some kind of revenge fantasy.

lupire 4y ago
Nah, US incarcerated is due to deep-seated racism and profit motive.
pazimzadeh 4y ago
I think that's somewhat true except in business/entrepreneurship, where the US seems way more forgiving to failure than Europe. Bankruptcy is also more common and it seems to me that people in the US respect having tried hard and failed hard more than having no failures on your resume.
doodlesdev 4y ago
I never talked about incarceration. I don't live in the United States and I am not American. I do not condone the american incarceration system. > This kind of thinking is antisocial and serves no purpose other than some kind of revenge fantasy. When it comes to putting someone in prison I agree 100%. When it comes to the right of a bussiness to reject a customer I disagree.