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I'm British, I prefer this identity to being European. You can see with the single currency that one size doesn't fit all. Flying under one giant flag reduces i

I'm British, I prefer this identity to being European. You can see with the single currency that one size doesn't fit all. Flying under one giant flag reduces individual states ability to stimulate their economy and promote a certain sector to grow. The EU isn't bad and I certainly wouldn't want Britain to stop being a member however - economic woes aside - I am generally happy with how things are currently. Europe doesn't need to become the United States of Europe to prosper.

bad_user 15y ago
That's because the EU is a heterogeneous environment and so there is a big difference between British/German standards, quality of life and mentality and the Greeks. However, it doesn't have to be that way. Apparently 50 states in the U.S. that are spread across an area that's almost as big as all of Europe and with a population that's racially and ethnically very diverse, can get along.
- ajuc 15y ago
  I assume you are citizen of USA. Would you like USA to join countries like Brazil, Canada, Mexico, Kuba, Wenezuela, Peru, and others to form one huge country with common political system (mix of current political systems of these countries), new official language (let's say it won't be English), common currency, etc? For this analogy to hold don't assume USA will dominate this union (even thought it would in reality), because for most countries in EU - they won't dominate. Think about this - more people in this new country would live outside of USA than inside, so when some hard decision comes, there's big chance former USA will lose the voting. There's big chance that people from USA will be minority in government of that new country. That's how many people in EU think about EU becoming one state.
  - masklinn 15y ago
    > I assume you are citizen of USA. > Would you like USA to join countries like Brazil, Canada, Mexico, Kuba, Wenezuela, Peru, and others to form one huge country with common political system I'm a citizen of the EU, and that's the kind of stuff I'd welcome. There are risks to it (leveling the resulting country to the bottom instead of the top), but it would make "globalization" far more accessible (and beneficial) to the common man. > That's how many people in EU think about EU becoming one state. That's mostly how people in the UK, historically "eurosceptics" and fearing a loss of power by the more populated and powerful (in their own right, but even more so when paired) franco-german pair, think. Interestingly, had the UK invested more heavily into the EU instead of going with the US they might have been able to create more balance by making the current DE-FR pair into a DE-FR-UK triplet. > new official language The US don't currently have an official language, only states do. And it's about half-half there (27 states have established English as an official language, including Hawaii and New Mexico which have a second official language besides english — respectively Hawaiian and Spanish)
  - bad_user 15y ago
    I'm not a citizen of the USA - I live in the EU. The difference between the USA and Brazil, Kuba, Wenezuela and Peru are much bigger and irreconcilable than the difference between Europe's members. However I could see the US joining Mexico and Canada. Canada has pretty high standards of living and I don't know if you noticed, but Hispanics are the nation's largest minority, as lots of Mexicans have migrated. If they can eradicate corruption in Mexico somehow, they could do it.

bad_user 15y ago

That's because the EU is a heterogeneous environment and so there is a big difference between British/German standards, quality of life and mentality and the Greeks. However, it doesn't have to be that way. Apparently 50 states in the U.S. that are spread across an area that's almost as big as all of Europe and with a population that's racially and ethnically very diverse, can get along.

ajuc 15y ago
I assume you are citizen of USA. Would you like USA to join countries like Brazil, Canada, Mexico, Kuba, Wenezuela, Peru, and others to form one huge country with common political system (mix of current political systems of these countries), new official language (let's say it won't be English), common currency, etc? For this analogy to hold don't assume USA will dominate this union (even thought it would in reality), because for most countries in EU - they won't dominate. Think about this - more people in this new country would live outside of USA than inside, so when some hard decision comes, there's big chance former USA will lose the voting. There's big chance that people from USA will be minority in government of that new country. That's how many people in EU think about EU becoming one state.
- masklinn 15y ago
  > I assume you are citizen of USA. > Would you like USA to join countries like Brazil, Canada, Mexico, Kuba, Wenezuela, Peru, and others to form one huge country with common political system I'm a citizen of the EU, and that's the kind of stuff I'd welcome. There are risks to it (leveling the resulting country to the bottom instead of the top), but it would make "globalization" far more accessible (and beneficial) to the common man. > That's how many people in EU think about EU becoming one state. That's mostly how people in the UK, historically "eurosceptics" and fearing a loss of power by the more populated and powerful (in their own right, but even more so when paired) franco-german pair, think. Interestingly, had the UK invested more heavily into the EU instead of going with the US they might have been able to create more balance by making the current DE-FR pair into a DE-FR-UK triplet. > new official language The US don't currently have an official language, only states do. And it's about half-half there (27 states have established English as an official language, including Hawaii and New Mexico which have a second official language besides english — respectively Hawaiian and Spanish)
- bad_user 15y ago
  I'm not a citizen of the USA - I live in the EU. The difference between the USA and Brazil, Kuba, Wenezuela and Peru are much bigger and irreconcilable than the difference between Europe's members. However I could see the US joining Mexico and Canada. Canada has pretty high standards of living and I don't know if you noticed, but Hispanics are the nation's largest minority, as lots of Mexicans have migrated. If they can eradicate corruption in Mexico somehow, they could do it.