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I think you're reading the least charitable interpretation into my comments. The question was not asked in bad faith, but genuine surprise, while I'm also bothe

I think you're reading the least charitable interpretation into my comments. The question was not asked in bad faith, but genuine surprise, while I'm also bothered by people acting as if a Meta employee could not be called out. You can be offended by the matter of an allegation being framed as something bad, and also not commit the alleged act. For example an Amazon employee could be bothered by their union related question being perceived as critique, while also seeing no issue with someone condemning Amazon for their illegal union busting, and general disregard for the safety and well being of their warehouse staff.

stale2002 4y ago
> The question was not asked in bad faith Ok, so you agree that you should not ask questions in bad faith, and then when you later said "And why should my question be in good faith?", well that was a dumb question. Glad I finally got you to the point of saying that we shouldn't ask people questions in bad faith, to attack them. Just say what mean, and don't do this roundabout way of attacking people, with a flame-bait question. And if you already agree that we should not ask people bad faith questions, then you saying "And why should my question be in good faith?" is bad faith itself, because you already know that we shouldn't do that.
- dessant 4y ago
  No, I don't think any method of direct or indirect questioning is bad in this context, while you have a problem with both a roundabout and a direct critique of someone's employment choice, be it Meta or Amazon. You said it yourself that I should be direct in my critique so that I hopefully get deplatformed. Find a less harmful employer instead of projecting your insecurities into someone's question, and trying to silence critique of any kind to ease your conscience.
  - stale2002 4y ago
    > No Cool, so as I suspected, you support engaging in bad faith, and asking bad faith questions. Just say that from the very beginning if that is your opinion. Not sure why you would do this song and dance of denial, if this is just what you believe.
    - dessant 4y ago
      I'm not sure what you're understanding from my comments at this point, but I said it early on that I see no problem with a bad faith question when it comes to questioning a Meta enginner's employment choice. I kept repeating the same thought over an over. You can be content with something in a specific case, and at the same time not engage in it. This also doesn't mean that someone will usually support a bad faith argument, or engage in it, as you seem to want to conclude.
      - stale2002 4y ago
        > I said it early on that I see no problem with a bad faith question Awesome! Got you to admit to it them! Now don't start crying when people accuse you of supporting asking questions in bad faith. Just say "Yep, that is a totally valid thing to accuse me of supporting. I agree that you are correct in saying that I have no problem with asking questions in bad faith!". You could have avoided all of this, if you just said that from the beginning.
        dessant 4y ago
        Good luck with that ridiculous generalization, and the partial quote that removes the context.

stale2002 4y ago

> The question was not asked in bad faith Ok, so you agree that you should not ask questions in bad faith, and then when you later said "And why should my question be in good faith?", well that was a dumb question. Glad I finally got you to the point of saying that we shouldn't ask people questions in bad faith, to attack them. Just say what mean, and don't do this roundabout way of attacking people, with a flame-bait question. And if you already agree that we should not ask people bad faith questions, then you saying "And why should my question be in good faith?" is bad faith itself, because you already know that we shouldn't do that.

dessant 4y ago
No, I don't think any method of direct or indirect questioning is bad in this context, while you have a problem with both a roundabout and a direct critique of someone's employment choice, be it Meta or Amazon. You said it yourself that I should be direct in my critique so that I hopefully get deplatformed. Find a less harmful employer instead of projecting your insecurities into someone's question, and trying to silence critique of any kind to ease your conscience.
- stale2002 4y ago
  > No Cool, so as I suspected, you support engaging in bad faith, and asking bad faith questions. Just say that from the very beginning if that is your opinion. Not sure why you would do this song and dance of denial, if this is just what you believe.
  - dessant 4y ago
    I'm not sure what you're understanding from my comments at this point, but I said it early on that I see no problem with a bad faith question when it comes to questioning a Meta enginner's employment choice. I kept repeating the same thought over an over. You can be content with something in a specific case, and at the same time not engage in it. This also doesn't mean that someone will usually support a bad faith argument, or engage in it, as you seem to want to conclude.
    - stale2002 4y ago
      > I said it early on that I see no problem with a bad faith question Awesome! Got you to admit to it them! Now don't start crying when people accuse you of supporting asking questions in bad faith. Just say "Yep, that is a totally valid thing to accuse me of supporting. I agree that you are correct in saying that I have no problem with asking questions in bad faith!". You could have avoided all of this, if you just said that from the beginning.
      - dessant 4y ago
        Good luck with that ridiculous generalization, and the partial quote that removes the context.