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YouTube took down her videos then apologized and reinstated them. This is the democratically elected head of a state. Their first female PM.

andirk 4y ago
In the eyes of the neoliberal, you're only supposed to use identity politics to attack your enemy, not as a means of stating basic facts such as she's Italy's first female PM.
- andijcr 4y ago
  nit: she is the head of the party that received most votes. She will probably be prime minister, but for now no government was proposed to the president, even the new parliament will not start for another week
- jbrr 4y ago
  Does criticizing someone because they’re a fascist count as identity politics these days?
  - andirk 4y ago
    I think ID Pol only includes using ones race, sex, gender, sexual orientation as proof of sound ideology and as a defense when criticized. Saying fascist and communist is a blanket insult to one's enemies, often heard in a screaming tone.
    - jbrr 4y ago
      In her case, though, she’s literally been involved in neo-fascist politics since she was a teenager. She’s spoken glowingly about Mussolini and Almirante. Maybe it would be more accurate to call her a neo-fascist, but regardless, it’s not hyperbole.
kennywinker 4y ago
- JSdev1 4y ago
  You may want to turn off the MSNBC, step outside and get some fresh air
  - kennywinker 4y ago
    I’ve never watched MSNBC outside of on silent in an airport bar. Your comment is unhelpful.
- jrsj 4y ago
  What you are saying basically amounts to "My political opponents are Nazis and so is anyone who associates with them, so they should all be silenced." And yet you're not taking the extreme position there. Interesting how that works.
  - lazyeye 4y ago
    Its the only form of hate that's still acceptable. Ascribing the worst possible motives to the people you disagree with.
    - kennywinker 4y ago
      Sometimes it's ascribing the worst possible motive to someone you disagree with - sometimes you disagree with someone who has the worst possible motives. You're saying it's the former, I'm saying recently we've seen a lot of the latter.
      - lazyeye 4y ago
        Maybe look at the numbers, if 50% plus have the "worst possible motives" then maybe its the former.
stefantalpalaru 4y ago
> This is the democratically elected head of a state. No, just a democratically elected member of Parliament. The head of state is the president, elected by the Parliament. That president picks a prime minister which needs to be approved by the parliament. > Their first female PM. Not yet. The Italian president has yet to name a PM candidate.
- sn0w_crash 4y ago
  This is the personification of the “ackchyually” meme https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/665/DpQ9YJl.png https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/665/DpQ...
  - stefantalpalaru 4y ago
UncleMeat 4y ago
Is her gender supposed to make her bigoted beliefs somehow less objectionable and terrifying?

andirk 4y ago

In the eyes of the neoliberal, you're only supposed to use identity politics to attack your enemy, not as a means of stating basic facts such as she's Italy's first female PM.

andijcr 4y ago
nit: she is the head of the party that received most votes. She will probably be prime minister, but for now no government was proposed to the president, even the new parliament will not start for another week
jbrr 4y ago
Does criticizing someone because they’re a fascist count as identity politics these days?
- andirk 4y ago
  I think ID Pol only includes using ones race, sex, gender, sexual orientation as proof of sound ideology and as a defense when criticized. Saying fascist and communist is a blanket insult to one's enemies, often heard in a screaming tone.
  - jbrr 4y ago
    In her case, though, she’s literally been involved in neo-fascist politics since she was a teenager. She’s spoken glowingly about Mussolini and Almirante. Maybe it would be more accurate to call her a neo-fascist, but regardless, it’s not hyperbole.

kennywinker 4y ago

JSdev1 4y ago
You may want to turn off the MSNBC, step outside and get some fresh air
- kennywinker 4y ago
  I’ve never watched MSNBC outside of on silent in an airport bar. Your comment is unhelpful.
jrsj 4y ago
What you are saying basically amounts to "My political opponents are Nazis and so is anyone who associates with them, so they should all be silenced." And yet you're not taking the extreme position there. Interesting how that works.
- lazyeye 4y ago
  Its the only form of hate that's still acceptable. Ascribing the worst possible motives to the people you disagree with.
  - kennywinker 4y ago
    Sometimes it's ascribing the worst possible motive to someone you disagree with - sometimes you disagree with someone who has the worst possible motives. You're saying it's the former, I'm saying recently we've seen a lot of the latter.
    - lazyeye 4y ago
      Maybe look at the numbers, if 50% plus have the "worst possible motives" then maybe its the former.

stefantalpalaru 4y ago

> This is the democratically elected head of a state. No, just a democratically elected member of Parliament. The head of state is the president, elected by the Parliament. That president picks a prime minister which needs to be approved by the parliament. > Their first female PM. Not yet. The Italian president has yet to name a PM candidate.

sn0w_crash 4y ago
This is the personification of the “ackchyually” meme https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/665/DpQ9YJl.png https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/665/DpQ...
- stefantalpalaru 4y ago

UncleMeat 4y ago

Is her gender supposed to make her bigoted beliefs somehow less objectionable and terrifying?