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Twitter Appears to Shadowban Videos of Italy’s First Female Incoming PM Meloni

134 points by that 4y ago

popilewiz 4y ago
sn0w_crash 4y ago
YouTube took down her videos then apologized and reinstated them. This is the democratically elected head of a state. Their first female PM.
- andirk 4y ago
  In the eyes of the neoliberal, you're only supposed to use identity politics to attack your enemy, not as a means of stating basic facts such as she's Italy's first female PM.
  - andijcr 4y ago
    nit: she is the head of the party that received most votes. She will probably be prime minister, but for now no government was proposed to the president, even the new parliament will not start for another week
  - jbrr 4y ago
    Does criticizing someone because they’re a fascist count as identity politics these days?
    - andirk 4y ago
      I think ID Pol only includes using ones race, sex, gender, sexual orientation as proof of sound ideology and as a defense when criticized. Saying fascist and communist is a blanket insult to one's enemies, often heard in a screaming tone.
      - jbrr 4y ago
        In her case, though, she’s literally been involved in neo-fascist politics since she was a teenager. She’s spoken glowingly about Mussolini and Almirante. Maybe it would be more accurate to call her a neo-fascist, but regardless, it’s not hyperbole.
- kennywinker 4y ago
  - JSdev1 4y ago
    You may want to turn off the MSNBC, step outside and get some fresh air
    - kennywinker 4y ago
      I’ve never watched MSNBC outside of on silent in an airport bar. Your comment is unhelpful.
  - jrsj 4y ago
    What you are saying basically amounts to "My political opponents are Nazis and so is anyone who associates with them, so they should all be silenced." And yet you're not taking the extreme position there. Interesting how that works.
    - lazyeye 4y ago
      Its the only form of hate that's still acceptable. Ascribing the worst possible motives to the people you disagree with.
      - kennywinker 4y ago
        Sometimes it's ascribing the worst possible motive to someone you disagree with - sometimes you disagree with someone who has the worst possible motives. You're saying it's the former, I'm saying recently we've seen a lot of the latter.
        lazyeye 4y ago
        Maybe look at the numbers, if 50% plus have the "worst possible motives" then maybe its the former.
- stefantalpalaru 4y ago
  > This is the democratically elected head of a state. No, just a democratically elected member of Parliament. The head of state is the president, elected by the Parliament. That president picks a prime minister which needs to be approved by the parliament. > Their first female PM. Not yet. The Italian president has yet to name a PM candidate.
  - sn0w_crash 4y ago
    This is the personification of the “ackchyually” meme https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/665/DpQ9YJl.png https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/665/DpQ...
    - stefantalpalaru 4y ago
- UncleMeat 4y ago
  Is her gender supposed to make her bigoted beliefs somehow less objectionable and terrifying?
tarakat 4y ago
I can confirm I get the same results. Testing for other leaders, I get plenty of results for e.g. Emanuel Macron. Ironically, the first result is a speech of Meloni addressing Macron. By the time they fix the "accidental bug triggered by anomalously high search volume" (or some similar excuse), the interest spike in Meloni will have passed, and her videos' reach will have been successfully stifled. And they'll learn their lesson, and next time will just reduce the visibility of her and her associates' posts. Assuming they haven't already also done that.
yrgulation 4y ago
She hasnt even started as a pm yet the eu issued warnings. Apparently Ursula “has tools”. You can’t make this shit up.
- mark_l_watson 4y ago
  +1 I was also shocked to hear in a news conference the EU president Ursula von der Leyen threaten the Italian voters right before the election. Seriously, I was shocked. So much for believing in democracy. I am very liberal politically, but I 100% support people on the right wing who run into trouble with the Neoliberal overlords. We need to have respect for all people's opinions (that are non-violent, etc.) and support all people's rights to vote as they wish. I think the Neoliberals must envy China's authoritarian control of their population, because that is what I think the Neoliberals want also. BTW, I joined the World Economic Forum for a while just to read directly what they were up to.
  - yrgulation 4y ago
    Likewise, left leaning and i find it shocking. And as much as i want to not criticise the eu and its politics i simply can’t. Always sanctions and threats what happened to cooperation and mutual understanding?
  - arinlen 4y ago
    > +1 I was also shocked to hear in a news conference the EU president Ursula von der Leyen threaten the Italian voters right before the election. This is the very first time I've heard such a thing. Do you have a source showcasing what you claim to be threats?
    - miguelazo 4y ago
    - tarakat 4y ago
      During a conference on Thursday at Princeton University, an attendant pointed out to von der Leyen that “figures close to Putin” were among candidates for the upcoming legislative election on Sunday. “We’ll see,” she replied. “If things go in a difficult direction — and I’ve spoken about Hungary and Poland — we have the tools.” - https://www.politico.eu/article/italy-election-candidate-warning-ursula-von-der-leyen/ https://www.politico.eu/article/italy-election-candidate-war...
Sunspark 4y ago
The people who make these decisions, who are the ones signing off on this sort of thing? Somehow I doubt this went to the board of directors level to ask if they have sign-off on low-key blocking a head of state in a market publicly-traded Twitter Inc. is active in.
- akomtu 4y ago
  It's a VP level thing. Some lowly offshore "content watcher" flags suspicious posts, the important flags bubble up in a email chain to a VP, who makes the decision. That's for high visibility dissenters. This email chain is discoverable if anyone bothers to sue and convince the judge.
  - Arnt 4y ago
    Or ML. If a user/keyword/whatever gets negative karma because previously-blocked nazis fawn over it, newly posted Giorgia Meloni videos will carry a heavy burden, even if that particular video isn't anything to complain about. The ML will guess that the nazis are going to like it, and load the new videos with negative karma.
    - akomtu 4y ago
      Oh, please. I've seen this in action. If ML is used, it's only to flag suspicious posts: bans are handed by corp managers.
      - undoware 4y ago
        Yes, but it's a shadow ban. Thinking aloud, I suppose there are three kinds of bans: 1 - Actual, explicit bans (formal) 2 - Intentional shadowbans (decided by humans) 3 - De-facto shadowbans (unintentional artifacts of ML vertex weighting) Note that the possibility of 3 occurs even if human intervention is needed to act upon the posts flagged by the ML --- the ML is, in effect, driving the 'attentional map' of the content moderator. So this specific incident would probably be a case of #3, but it makes people angrier if you suggest it's #2, so that's what people are doing.
lazyeye 4y ago
Its surprising how effective media censorship can be. Anything the media wilfully chooses to ignore immediately becomes a "fringe conspiracy theory" no matter how real it might be. And any attempt to discuss the subject is viewed in this way.
- tamentis 4y ago
  Try to bring it up to friends and family in a week. Anybody trying to google that fact will struggle to find any information about it.
- stjohnswarts 4y ago
  No one has proved twitter shadow banned anything yet. It could have been a mistake. This is hype from the dailywire which is always full of garbage and is only the same level as breitbart or OAN. For examplet those sites are melting down over Lizza playing a flute own by James Madison (likely because she's a person of color)
- trs8080 4y ago
  What is "the media" here?
  - lazyeye 4y ago
    All of it, mainstream and social.
andirk 4y ago
Facebook and Twitter outright admitted to blocking content related to Hunter Biden's laptop before the election 2020. They claimed it was for privacy concerns. And then after the election, there was no worry so that rule went away. All of these decisions are of a neoliberal view of the world which is mainly "yes war, identity politics when convenient, block dissent otherwise". This will only continue.
- boppo1 4y ago
  Not sure why this is downvoted, Zuckerberg himself acknowledged the legitimacy* of the H. Biden laptop story and that it was mistakenly blocked. Something like "There was a lot of BS going around at the time and we had to make a call on it quickly and we were wrong." It was fairly level headed if I recall. *to some extent. I know there were people claiming the laptop tied the Bidens into some sort of demon worshipping child eating cult or something, obviously that's a joke.
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
    At the time it happened, I noted that a lot of goodwill tech companies managed to accumulate over the years will be squandered on an election drama. I agree that the post-fact discussion was better, but real-time panic was palpable. Just doing all that stuff in tandem with Twitter moved the story from conspiracy theory to a simple 'they are colluding so it must be true'. It is nothing that an average information analyst would not predict. I can only assume reasonable voices were ignored.
  - andirk 4y ago
    HN is my fave place for intellectual discourse. However, I deleted the last line of my comment before posting: "I expect to get downvoted because HN does not tolerate negative discussion of the American Democratic Party". How a brilliant mind can be so beholden to a corrupt institution(s) (either leading American political party) is beyond me.
    - systemvoltage 4y ago
      Litmus test for high IQ is if one can criticize their own party. Better if done in person, people completely fumble followed by a profound realization.
guywithahat 4y ago
Never thought I'd see a daily wire article here. The unfortunate bit is what'll happen is twitter will go "oops we made a mistake", but never acknowledge why this happened in the first place (which is likely because they were doing something nefarious to her ranking on twitter).
- moralestapia 4y ago
  The only thing I'd like to see out of the whole Musk-Twitter affair is some transparency on how they actually "rank" things on their site. And I'm sure there's a lot of mud in there.
- miguelazo 4y ago
  Of course it was intentional-- Twitter and the rest of the social media companies are infested with former (if not current) spooks, many hired for precisely this sort of work -- "content moderation" policy. Meloni is viewed as not "reliable" for pursuing the proxy war against Russia. (https://www.mintpressnews.com/how-the-cia-has-infiltrated-social-media-companies-with-alan-macleod/281824/ https://www.mintpressnews.com/how-the-cia-has-infiltrated-so...)
  - wellthatsawrap1 4y ago
    Not sure why you are being downvoted. These are facts that came out in the whole Musk/Nudge fiasco. Everyone watches the matrix and thinks they are Neo, when infact, they are the f*ing battery.
    - Fatnino 4y ago
      CPU. The humans are the CPUs. In the movie they changed it to batteries because they thought the average audience was too stupid to know what a CPU is. Humans as CPUs works so much better.
      - nunobrito 4y ago
        Thanks for that clarification. Always thought it was stupid to go through all that hassle on the matrix infrastructure and simulated worlds just to adopt humans as batteries. Would have been easier to adopt nuclear power instead. As CPUs makes far more sense.
Jackpillar 4y ago
Daily Wire and Hacker News - what an increasingly weird yet fitting combination.
stuaxo 4y ago
So there is a facism filter.
- spoiler 4y ago
  You can (and I personally do) disagree with Twitter banning her content. Even though her views are both offensive and threatening to me. But I don't see why this comment is being downvoted, because it's true. She has without a doubt made incredibly outlandish fascist statements. There's videos of her vehemently speaking at rallies how Istria and Dalmatia need to be reclaimed by Italy, and has had made really distasteful statements and positions against the LGBTQ community. There's... I guess right wing people who'll defend her positions as being patriotic or wanting to "preserve traditional Italian family values" Lol, what a world we live in
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nunobrito 4y ago
I've tested the same video search from a twitter account in Portugal and confirm the same (zero) results. My country lived through a dictatorship not long ago where someone in power decided what citizens could read or not, for "our own good" of course. To whoever supports this censoring: please remember to remain consistent when these platforms start to shadowban you.
- MiguelX413 4y ago
  Luckily they can't ban me, because I don't rely on their platforms. Viva el Fediverse!
- dethos 4y ago
  ..."you" or the people you agree with.
- raxxorraxor 4y ago
  I don't think Italy made a good choice here although I don't know the details. But just like Twitter I just don't know and people have a right to know or learn why she may be a bad choice. The recent strategy of large tech corporations is devastatingly bad, clearly demonstrating their inability to vet and validate content. The people that expect that to do just that are just as much a problem as Twitter itself is here. Censoring these voices will not help, it will not make their ideas or wants to go away. On the contrary, any differences will become insurmountable. > please remember to remain consistent when these platforms start to shadowban you. The people supporting this deserve far more condemnation. They should know better and if they do not they are incapable to make such decisions in the first place. Far more likely is that they plainly spread US propaganda.
diebeforei485 4y ago
As always, the "mistakes" are always in the same direction.
Overtonwindow 4y ago
Twitter is becoming like the government: If they ban, censor, or try to censor something, you should definitely find out for yourself. I’m sick and tired of companies “fact checking” and shadowbanning content for my “safety.”
timcavel 4y ago
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that 4y ago
Wish I could find a more neutral source, but this is what is available. I was surprised to see this, I had thought that shadowbans on twitter were like those on reddit, so only used for non-human bots.
- tinus_hn 4y ago
  A shadowban does not hide comments from the bot account but does hide it from not logged in users. It’s trivial to code a check for. Shadowbans only work against annoying humans that don’t pay attention.
- deleted 4y ago
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- praisewhitey 4y ago
  I'm seeing a lot of results (USA). Is this a region specific issue? https://twitter.com/search?q=Giorgia+Meloni+filter%3Avideos&f=live https://twitter.com/search?q=Giorgia+Meloni+filter%3Avideos&...
  - KerrAvon 4y ago
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    - that 4y ago
      It may be partially resolved in some ways, but it is in no way "B.S." Please note the lack of results on the images and video tabs for yourself: https://twitter.com/search?q=giorgia%20meloni&f=video https://twitter.com/search?q=giorgia%20meloni&f=video https://twitter.com/search?q=giorgia%20meloni&f=image https://twitter.com/search?q=giorgia%20meloni&f=image It now seems populated with a combined 3 results between the two tabs linked. If it is a technical malfunction rather than a shadow ban, what do you suspect is happening? EDIT: Adding archive links for proof, looks like 4 results combined: https://archive.ph/0D8vt https://archive.ph/0D8vt https://archive.ph/Sg4WP https://archive.ph/Sg4WP
  - tarakat 4y ago

134 points by that 4y ago

YouTube took down her videos then apologized and reinstated them. This is the democratically elected head of a state. Their first female PM.

andirk 4y ago
In the eyes of the neoliberal, you're only supposed to use identity politics to attack your enemy, not as a means of stating basic facts such as she's Italy's first female PM.
- andijcr 4y ago
  nit: she is the head of the party that received most votes. She will probably be prime minister, but for now no government was proposed to the president, even the new parliament will not start for another week
- jbrr 4y ago
  Does criticizing someone because they’re a fascist count as identity politics these days?
  - andirk 4y ago
    I think ID Pol only includes using ones race, sex, gender, sexual orientation as proof of sound ideology and as a defense when criticized. Saying fascist and communist is a blanket insult to one's enemies, often heard in a screaming tone.
    - jbrr 4y ago
      In her case, though, she’s literally been involved in neo-fascist politics since she was a teenager. She’s spoken glowingly about Mussolini and Almirante. Maybe it would be more accurate to call her a neo-fascist, but regardless, it’s not hyperbole.
kennywinker 4y ago
- JSdev1 4y ago
  You may want to turn off the MSNBC, step outside and get some fresh air
  - kennywinker 4y ago
    I’ve never watched MSNBC outside of on silent in an airport bar. Your comment is unhelpful.
- jrsj 4y ago
  What you are saying basically amounts to "My political opponents are Nazis and so is anyone who associates with them, so they should all be silenced." And yet you're not taking the extreme position there. Interesting how that works.
  - lazyeye 4y ago
    Its the only form of hate that's still acceptable. Ascribing the worst possible motives to the people you disagree with.
    - kennywinker 4y ago
      Sometimes it's ascribing the worst possible motive to someone you disagree with - sometimes you disagree with someone who has the worst possible motives. You're saying it's the former, I'm saying recently we've seen a lot of the latter.
      - lazyeye 4y ago
        Maybe look at the numbers, if 50% plus have the "worst possible motives" then maybe its the former.
stefantalpalaru 4y ago
> This is the democratically elected head of a state. No, just a democratically elected member of Parliament. The head of state is the president, elected by the Parliament. That president picks a prime minister which needs to be approved by the parliament. > Their first female PM. Not yet. The Italian president has yet to name a PM candidate.
- sn0w_crash 4y ago
  This is the personification of the “ackchyually” meme https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/665/DpQ9YJl.png https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/665/DpQ...
  - stefantalpalaru 4y ago
UncleMeat 4y ago
Is her gender supposed to make her bigoted beliefs somehow less objectionable and terrifying?

tarakat 4y ago

I can confirm I get the same results. Testing for other leaders, I get plenty of results for e.g. Emanuel Macron. Ironically, the first result is a speech of Meloni addressing Macron. By the time they fix the "accidental bug triggered by anomalously high search volume" (or some similar excuse), the interest spike in Meloni will have passed, and her videos' reach will have been successfully stifled. And they'll learn their lesson, and next time will just reduce the visibility of her and her associates' posts. Assuming they haven't already also done that.

yrgulation 4y ago

She hasnt even started as a pm yet the eu issued warnings. Apparently Ursula “has tools”. You can’t make this shit up.

mark_l_watson 4y ago
+1 I was also shocked to hear in a news conference the EU president Ursula von der Leyen threaten the Italian voters right before the election. Seriously, I was shocked. So much for believing in democracy. I am very liberal politically, but I 100% support people on the right wing who run into trouble with the Neoliberal overlords. We need to have respect for all people's opinions (that are non-violent, etc.) and support all people's rights to vote as they wish. I think the Neoliberals must envy China's authoritarian control of their population, because that is what I think the Neoliberals want also. BTW, I joined the World Economic Forum for a while just to read directly what they were up to.
- yrgulation 4y ago
  Likewise, left leaning and i find it shocking. And as much as i want to not criticise the eu and its politics i simply can’t. Always sanctions and threats what happened to cooperation and mutual understanding?
- arinlen 4y ago
  > +1 I was also shocked to hear in a news conference the EU president Ursula von der Leyen threaten the Italian voters right before the election. This is the very first time I've heard such a thing. Do you have a source showcasing what you claim to be threats?
  - miguelazo 4y ago
  - tarakat 4y ago
    During a conference on Thursday at Princeton University, an attendant pointed out to von der Leyen that “figures close to Putin” were among candidates for the upcoming legislative election on Sunday. “We’ll see,” she replied. “If things go in a difficult direction — and I’ve spoken about Hungary and Poland — we have the tools.” - https://www.politico.eu/article/italy-election-candidate-warning-ursula-von-der-leyen/ https://www.politico.eu/article/italy-election-candidate-war...

Sunspark 4y ago

The people who make these decisions, who are the ones signing off on this sort of thing? Somehow I doubt this went to the board of directors level to ask if they have sign-off on low-key blocking a head of state in a market publicly-traded Twitter Inc. is active in.

akomtu 4y ago
It's a VP level thing. Some lowly offshore "content watcher" flags suspicious posts, the important flags bubble up in a email chain to a VP, who makes the decision. That's for high visibility dissenters. This email chain is discoverable if anyone bothers to sue and convince the judge.
- Arnt 4y ago
  Or ML. If a user/keyword/whatever gets negative karma because previously-blocked nazis fawn over it, newly posted Giorgia Meloni videos will carry a heavy burden, even if that particular video isn't anything to complain about. The ML will guess that the nazis are going to like it, and load the new videos with negative karma.
  - akomtu 4y ago
    Oh, please. I've seen this in action. If ML is used, it's only to flag suspicious posts: bans are handed by corp managers.
    - undoware 4y ago
      Yes, but it's a shadow ban. Thinking aloud, I suppose there are three kinds of bans: 1 - Actual, explicit bans (formal) 2 - Intentional shadowbans (decided by humans) 3 - De-facto shadowbans (unintentional artifacts of ML vertex weighting) Note that the possibility of 3 occurs even if human intervention is needed to act upon the posts flagged by the ML --- the ML is, in effect, driving the 'attentional map' of the content moderator. So this specific incident would probably be a case of #3, but it makes people angrier if you suggest it's #2, so that's what people are doing.

lazyeye 4y ago

Its surprising how effective media censorship can be. Anything the media wilfully chooses to ignore immediately becomes a "fringe conspiracy theory" no matter how real it might be. And any attempt to discuss the subject is viewed in this way.

tamentis 4y ago
Try to bring it up to friends and family in a week. Anybody trying to google that fact will struggle to find any information about it.
stjohnswarts 4y ago
No one has proved twitter shadow banned anything yet. It could have been a mistake. This is hype from the dailywire which is always full of garbage and is only the same level as breitbart or OAN. For examplet those sites are melting down over Lizza playing a flute own by James Madison (likely because she's a person of color)
trs8080 4y ago
What is "the media" here?
- lazyeye 4y ago
  All of it, mainstream and social.

andirk 4y ago

Facebook and Twitter outright admitted to blocking content related to Hunter Biden's laptop before the election 2020. They claimed it was for privacy concerns. And then after the election, there was no worry so that rule went away. All of these decisions are of a neoliberal view of the world which is mainly "yes war, identity politics when convenient, block dissent otherwise". This will only continue.

boppo1 4y ago
Not sure why this is downvoted, Zuckerberg himself acknowledged the legitimacy* of the H. Biden laptop story and that it was mistakenly blocked. Something like "There was a lot of BS going around at the time and we had to make a call on it quickly and we were wrong." It was fairly level headed if I recall. *to some extent. I know there were people claiming the laptop tied the Bidens into some sort of demon worshipping child eating cult or something, obviously that's a joke.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
  At the time it happened, I noted that a lot of goodwill tech companies managed to accumulate over the years will be squandered on an election drama. I agree that the post-fact discussion was better, but real-time panic was palpable. Just doing all that stuff in tandem with Twitter moved the story from conspiracy theory to a simple 'they are colluding so it must be true'. It is nothing that an average information analyst would not predict. I can only assume reasonable voices were ignored.
- andirk 4y ago
  HN is my fave place for intellectual discourse. However, I deleted the last line of my comment before posting: "I expect to get downvoted because HN does not tolerate negative discussion of the American Democratic Party". How a brilliant mind can be so beholden to a corrupt institution(s) (either leading American political party) is beyond me.
  - systemvoltage 4y ago
    Litmus test for high IQ is if one can criticize their own party. Better if done in person, people completely fumble followed by a profound realization.

guywithahat 4y ago

Never thought I'd see a daily wire article here. The unfortunate bit is what'll happen is twitter will go "oops we made a mistake", but never acknowledge why this happened in the first place (which is likely because they were doing something nefarious to her ranking on twitter).

moralestapia 4y ago
The only thing I'd like to see out of the whole Musk-Twitter affair is some transparency on how they actually "rank" things on their site. And I'm sure there's a lot of mud in there.
miguelazo 4y ago
Of course it was intentional-- Twitter and the rest of the social media companies are infested with former (if not current) spooks, many hired for precisely this sort of work -- "content moderation" policy. Meloni is viewed as not "reliable" for pursuing the proxy war against Russia. (https://www.mintpressnews.com/how-the-cia-has-infiltrated-social-media-companies-with-alan-macleod/281824/ https://www.mintpressnews.com/how-the-cia-has-infiltrated-so...)
- wellthatsawrap1 4y ago
  Not sure why you are being downvoted. These are facts that came out in the whole Musk/Nudge fiasco. Everyone watches the matrix and thinks they are Neo, when infact, they are the f*ing battery.
  - Fatnino 4y ago
    CPU. The humans are the CPUs. In the movie they changed it to batteries because they thought the average audience was too stupid to know what a CPU is. Humans as CPUs works so much better.
    - nunobrito 4y ago
      Thanks for that clarification. Always thought it was stupid to go through all that hassle on the matrix infrastructure and simulated worlds just to adopt humans as batteries. Would have been easier to adopt nuclear power instead. As CPUs makes far more sense.

Jackpillar 4y ago

Daily Wire and Hacker News - what an increasingly weird yet fitting combination.

stuaxo 4y ago

So there is a facism filter.

spoiler 4y ago
You can (and I personally do) disagree with Twitter banning her content. Even though her views are both offensive and threatening to me. But I don't see why this comment is being downvoted, because it's true. She has without a doubt made incredibly outlandish fascist statements. There's videos of her vehemently speaking at rallies how Istria and Dalmatia need to be reclaimed by Italy, and has had made really distasteful statements and positions against the LGBTQ community. There's... I guess right wing people who'll defend her positions as being patriotic or wanting to "preserve traditional Italian family values" Lol, what a world we live in

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nunobrito 4y ago

I've tested the same video search from a twitter account in Portugal and confirm the same (zero) results. My country lived through a dictatorship not long ago where someone in power decided what citizens could read or not, for "our own good" of course. To whoever supports this censoring: please remember to remain consistent when these platforms start to shadowban you.

MiguelX413 4y ago
Luckily they can't ban me, because I don't rely on their platforms. Viva el Fediverse!
dethos 4y ago
..."you" or the people you agree with.
raxxorraxor 4y ago
I don't think Italy made a good choice here although I don't know the details. But just like Twitter I just don't know and people have a right to know or learn why she may be a bad choice. The recent strategy of large tech corporations is devastatingly bad, clearly demonstrating their inability to vet and validate content. The people that expect that to do just that are just as much a problem as Twitter itself is here. Censoring these voices will not help, it will not make their ideas or wants to go away. On the contrary, any differences will become insurmountable. > please remember to remain consistent when these platforms start to shadowban you. The people supporting this deserve far more condemnation. They should know better and if they do not they are incapable to make such decisions in the first place. Far more likely is that they plainly spread US propaganda.

diebeforei485 4y ago

As always, the "mistakes" are always in the same direction.

Overtonwindow 4y ago

Twitter is becoming like the government: If they ban, censor, or try to censor something, you should definitely find out for yourself. I’m sick and tired of companies “fact checking” and shadowbanning content for my “safety.”

timcavel 4y ago

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that 4y ago

Wish I could find a more neutral source, but this is what is available. I was surprised to see this, I had thought that shadowbans on twitter were like those on reddit, so only used for non-human bots.

tinus_hn 4y ago
A shadowban does not hide comments from the bot account but does hide it from not logged in users. It’s trivial to code a check for. Shadowbans only work against annoying humans that don’t pay attention.
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praisewhitey 4y ago
I'm seeing a lot of results (USA). Is this a region specific issue? https://twitter.com/search?q=Giorgia+Meloni+filter%3Avideos&f=live https://twitter.com/search?q=Giorgia+Meloni+filter%3Avideos&...
- KerrAvon 4y ago
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  - that 4y ago
    It may be partially resolved in some ways, but it is in no way "B.S." Please note the lack of results on the images and video tabs for yourself: https://twitter.com/search?q=giorgia%20meloni&f=video https://twitter.com/search?q=giorgia%20meloni&f=video https://twitter.com/search?q=giorgia%20meloni&f=image https://twitter.com/search?q=giorgia%20meloni&f=image It now seems populated with a combined 3 results between the two tabs linked. If it is a technical malfunction rather than a shadow ban, what do you suspect is happening? EDIT: Adding archive links for proof, looks like 4 results combined: https://archive.ph/0D8vt https://archive.ph/0D8vt https://archive.ph/Sg4WP https://archive.ph/Sg4WP
- tarakat 4y ago