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Because you gotta trust people behind ungoogled Chromium I don't know them, so I don't trust them.

by tester756 4y ago

poopnugget 4y ago
s3p 4y ago
Waiting for the /sarcasm tag
fsflover 4y ago
But we do know people behind Microsoft are not to be trusted with our privacy... See PRISM and their data collection practices.
- tester756 4y ago
  The thing is about what data MS wants and what bad actor in ungoogled chromium would want e.g MS doesn't want to steal money from my card
  - BiteCode_dev 4y ago
    Indeed, they will lock you in to get it legally.
bilekas 4y ago
Chromium is open source, and so you can see what the changelog is etc.. You don't need to trust the people when you can read the source yourself ? also "ungoogled Chromium" - The process is Chrome is Googled Chromium. Chromium was a thing before Google-Chrome.. Edit: My mistake: Chrome and Chromium were release the same time.
- judge2020 4y ago
  > also "ungoogled Chromium" - The process is Chrome is Googled Chromium. You can download Chromium[0], but people tend to be referring to the project called "Ungoogled Chromium"[1] to remove any calls to Google domains, eg. safe browsing, which are still present in Chromium. 0: https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium/ https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium/ 1: https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium
- detaro 4y ago
  > Chromium was a thing before Google-Chrome no it wasn't.
  - bilekas 4y ago
    Sorry that's actually my mistake, I was thinking of something else. (Android) They were both launched the same period, but chromium was the 'trimmed' down open source version.
- tester756 4y ago
  Yes, I'm definitely going to audit some giant as hell CPP code base (diffs) every four weeks. I'd rather write my own browser from scratch
  - bilekas 4y ago
    > Yes, I'm definitely going to audit some giant as hell CPP code base (diffs) every four weeks. I've had this discussion with other people too, just because you don't want to doesn't mean you can't. So your point of suspecting something nefarious is moot for me until you can back it up.
    - tester756 4y ago
      If I do already use Windows, then I'm already relying on MS Using Edge doesn't change much, meanwhile using ungoogled Chromium means that I have to trust additional actors Additionally MS inserting e.g "backdoor" into Edge could cost them a lot of in PR damages meanwhile what if ungoogled chromium inserted some kind of "backdoor"? I don't even know people who maintain it, so I wouldn't even be able to break their windows or throw eggs at them
      - bilekas 4y ago
        > I don't even know people who maintain it, so I wouldn't even be able to break their windows or throw eggs at them I hear your point on this, it's pretty hard to put your faith in a browser that updates regularly and not just for schema reasons. But you seem okay with Edge.. > Using Edge doesn't change much, meanwhile using ungoogled Chromium means that I have to trust additional actors This is where I'm confused. > Additionally MS inserting e.g "backdoor" into Edge could cost them a lot of in PR damages I'm not an M$ hater, they've been incredible. dotNet core is a gift. GoPilot is a good use of whatever we're doing here. But why do you think if they could work a 'backdoor' (without leaks from employees) would actually matter. Their fine would be minimal.. See FB I think we've come full circle. I'm defending your point that Edge might be just another 'Okay' browser.
        4y ago

Because you gotta trust people behind ungoogled Chromium I don't know them, so I don't trust them.

poopnugget 4y ago

s3p 4y ago

Waiting for the /sarcasm tag

fsflover 4y ago

But we do know people behind Microsoft are not to be trusted with our privacy... See PRISM and their data collection practices.

tester756 4y ago
The thing is about what data MS wants and what bad actor in ungoogled chromium would want e.g MS doesn't want to steal money from my card
- BiteCode_dev 4y ago
  Indeed, they will lock you in to get it legally.

bilekas 4y ago

Chromium is open source, and so you can see what the changelog is etc.. You don't need to trust the people when you can read the source yourself ? also "ungoogled Chromium" - The process is Chrome is Googled Chromium. Chromium was a thing before Google-Chrome.. Edit: My mistake: Chrome and Chromium were release the same time.

judge2020 4y ago
> also "ungoogled Chromium" - The process is Chrome is Googled Chromium. You can download Chromium[0], but people tend to be referring to the project called "Ungoogled Chromium"[1] to remove any calls to Google domains, eg. safe browsing, which are still present in Chromium. 0: https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium/ https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium/ 1: https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium
detaro 4y ago
> Chromium was a thing before Google-Chrome no it wasn't.
- bilekas 4y ago
  Sorry that's actually my mistake, I was thinking of something else. (Android) They were both launched the same period, but chromium was the 'trimmed' down open source version.
tester756 4y ago
Yes, I'm definitely going to audit some giant as hell CPP code base (diffs) every four weeks. I'd rather write my own browser from scratch
- bilekas 4y ago
  > Yes, I'm definitely going to audit some giant as hell CPP code base (diffs) every four weeks. I've had this discussion with other people too, just because you don't want to doesn't mean you can't. So your point of suspecting something nefarious is moot for me until you can back it up.
  - tester756 4y ago
    If I do already use Windows, then I'm already relying on MS Using Edge doesn't change much, meanwhile using ungoogled Chromium means that I have to trust additional actors Additionally MS inserting e.g "backdoor" into Edge could cost them a lot of in PR damages meanwhile what if ungoogled chromium inserted some kind of "backdoor"? I don't even know people who maintain it, so I wouldn't even be able to break their windows or throw eggs at them
    - bilekas 4y ago
      > I don't even know people who maintain it, so I wouldn't even be able to break their windows or throw eggs at them I hear your point on this, it's pretty hard to put your faith in a browser that updates regularly and not just for schema reasons. But you seem okay with Edge.. > Using Edge doesn't change much, meanwhile using ungoogled Chromium means that I have to trust additional actors This is where I'm confused. > Additionally MS inserting e.g "backdoor" into Edge could cost them a lot of in PR damages I'm not an M$ hater, they've been incredible. dotNet core is a gift. GoPilot is a good use of whatever we're doing here. But why do you think if they could work a 'backdoor' (without leaks from employees) would actually matter. Their fine would be minimal.. See FB I think we've come full circle. I'm defending your point that Edge might be just another 'Okay' browser.
      - 4y ago