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While I don't agree with the content of the bill or its general approach, the underlying problem is real. The music industry, the pornography industry, etc. don

While I don't agree with the content of the bill or its general approach, the underlying problem is real. The music industry, the pornography industry, etc. don't need help, because music and pornography are still being produced, in abundance. Journalism, especially local journalism and investigative journalism, not so much. It's also quite reasonable to ask, though, if this bill would actually benefit local papers, and not just the NYT and WaPo.

ghaff 4y ago
And most people making music and pornography don’t make much money either. Also make no mistake. If individuals writing code were dependent on tip jars they wouldn’t be any better off—as has been abundantly demonstrated.
- 7speter 4y ago
  I mean, anytime the subject of giving a little money to foss developers is brought up theres, theres lots of angry people in the comments saying those developers shouldn't be given anything.
DisjointedHunt 4y ago
Lol, i love the discourse on HN /s And you suppose Journalistic pieces aren't produced in similar abundance right now? We are in an era where anyone can spin up a podcast/video channel/website etc. The SINGLE LARGEST TRUSTED NEWS SOURCE IN AMERICA according to many political investigative entities is JOE ROGAN. And that's a great tangent. Would Joe Rogan be eligible for these payouts if he publishes snippets outside his Spotify deal and it shows up on Facebook ? OF COURSE HE WONT. That's the point of the bill . . .to suppress independent journalists and enrich the establishment.
- 7speter 4y ago
  How much does Joe Rogan rely on clicks from facebook for money?
  - DisjointedHunt 4y ago
    Does the bill literally say a news outlet needs to rely on “clicks from Facebook for money” to qualify? Come on, you’re probably smarter than this and can present a better argument than needing to stoop to a straw man.
- dnissley 4y ago
  Indeed, we certainly have an abundance of journalism. Perhaps the point about local journalism still stands, however.

ghaff 4y ago

And most people making music and pornography don’t make much money either. Also make no mistake. If individuals writing code were dependent on tip jars they wouldn’t be any better off—as has been abundantly demonstrated.

7speter 4y ago
I mean, anytime the subject of giving a little money to foss developers is brought up theres, theres lots of angry people in the comments saying those developers shouldn't be given anything.

DisjointedHunt 4y ago

Lol, i love the discourse on HN /s And you suppose Journalistic pieces aren't produced in similar abundance right now? We are in an era where anyone can spin up a podcast/video channel/website etc. The SINGLE LARGEST TRUSTED NEWS SOURCE IN AMERICA according to many political investigative entities is JOE ROGAN. And that's a great tangent. Would Joe Rogan be eligible for these payouts if he publishes snippets outside his Spotify deal and it shows up on Facebook ? OF COURSE HE WONT. That's the point of the bill . . .to suppress independent journalists and enrich the establishment.

7speter 4y ago
How much does Joe Rogan rely on clicks from facebook for money?
- DisjointedHunt 4y ago
  Does the bill literally say a news outlet needs to rely on “clicks from Facebook for money” to qualify? Come on, you’re probably smarter than this and can present a better argument than needing to stoop to a straw man.
dnissley 4y ago
Indeed, we certainly have an abundance of journalism. Perhaps the point about local journalism still stands, however.