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This is a huge issue- it's rare that I find a stretch of two blocks in Manhattan or Brooklyn that doesn't have a car sitting in the bike lane. Double parking se
by jackconsidine 4y ago
This is a huge issue- it's rare that I find a stretch of two blocks in Manhattan or Brooklyn that doesn't have a car sitting in the bike lane. Double parking seems to be a way of life (remember the Seinfeld episode?). About half the time there's someone in the car which might make this complicated, but I love that someone is raising this.
- __s 4y agoSeinfeld scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wH9bXy--lA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wH9bXy--lA
- jackconsidine 4y agoThank you!
- pxmpxm 4y agoHighly dense neighborhoods will invariably have cars, and especially delivery vehicles, double parking all over because density always implies shortage of space; bike lanes are in now way special in this context, unless you're suburban transplant with a newfound IMACYCLISTNOW identity.
- jackconsidine 4y agoAre you suggesting that because cyclists are annoying, parking ordinances and laws should be ignored?
- pxmpxm 4y ago
- ch4s3 4y agoThis is a pretty dismissive take. The city could easily designate unloading zones in lieu of a parking space or town in the middle of most blocks. Don’t forget, bike lanes are also used for deliveries.
- pxmpxm 4y agoVast majority of space, especially around the Manhattan and the dense part of Brooklyn and Bronx already is commercial unloading only Mon-Fri, yet the dynamic I mentioned is common place. Again high density implies shortage of space - you want groceries and bike/car lanes, but only get to pick one of the two.
- ch4s3 4y ago> already is commercial unloading only Mon-Fri I’m aware. That’s why people are advocating enforcing the law.
- mjhay 4y agoIt is possible to get groceries without a car in New York. You are really ignoring the huge opportunity cost of land that is widespread personal car use in NYC - people just tend to ignore how much land that really is because they are so used to it*. Delivery trucks wouldn't be a problem if there were a lot less cars, but cars are sarcosanct in America. [*] The story of the original Sim City comes to mind. They originally were going to show parking lots, etc, but realized all this infrastructure actually made it look stupid and empty.
- pxmpxm 4y agoWell of course it is, either a delivery truck unloads it to your local bodega, or an an amazon car unloads it to your doorstep. Again during the workweek, vast majority of street parking is only open to those two options, yet double parking is common place.
- Wowfunhappy 4y ago> bike lanes are in now way special in this context If there will always be a shortage of space, we should encourage the activity that uses that space more efficiently. That means bikes over cars.
- pxmpxm 4y agoSo your grand idea is to replace commercial delivery traffic in new york city with bicycles?
- Wowfunhappy 4y agoI think a majority of the roads in Manhattan should be closed to cars, and those which remain should be open only to commercial vehicles and individuals who can park in a handicapped parking spot.
- battery_glasses 4y agoHow about the delivery trucks block car traffic instead of bike traffic.
- resoluteteeth 4y agoUPS is already trying small 4-wheeled bike vehicles in new york: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2022-06-15/ups-tries-electric-bikes-for-deliveries https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2022-06-15/ups-tries-e...