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Credit scores are not determined by the government. If a credit ratings agency took that step, it would harm them because Twitter posts are unlikely to represen
by hardnose 4y ago
Credit scores are not determined by the government. If a credit ratings agency took that step, it would harm them because Twitter posts are unlikely to represent a meaningful variable when predicting someone's creditworthiness.
Don't confuse that with "social credit" systems, whereby China prevents you from riding trains if you say something naughty.
- wahnfrieden 4y ago(citation needed - that’s not actually implemented in china at scale, though it’s a convenient talking point in the west)
- challenger-derp 4y ago> that's not actually implemented That's my understanding as well. > it's a convenient talking point in the west When online comments get worked up about The Social Credit System, a key thing I believe they're trying to do is spread awareness of how disturbing it is that a government is even considering such a thing that, as we understand it, is closely related to being a core technology in an authoritarian dystopia. While it's not implemented at scale, the unnerving fact is that govt policy makers did a careful enough take on a social credit system to decide that it was worthwhile investing (probably non-trivial amounts of ) money and resources into exploring it and did eventually reach a point where they were a handful of steps short of wide-scale implementation.
- wahnfrieden 4y agoOk. If we’re talking speculative planning, the US also considers bringing privatized credit score system under government control instead, the very thing OP is criticizing. I have no problem with criticizing authorities but the us vs them look how much worse it is in red china god bless our freedoms here angle is tired bootlicking too
- egberts1 4y agoIt is called 社会信用体系 . Try and keep up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System
- wahnfrieden 4y agoTry and read. Where exactly does it say it’s ever progressed beyond trials and announcements ie implemented at scale - oh it doesn’t
- egberts1 4y agoseek and ye shall find https://nhglobalpartners.com/china-social-credit-system-explained/ https://nhglobalpartners.com/china-social-credit-system-expl...
- wahnfrieden 4y agothank you. the most specific citation I could find in your link was this, regarding the 80% rollout statistic: >As of December 2020, more than 80 percent of all the provinces, autonomous regions, and municipal cities had issued or were preparing to issue local credit laws and regulations.
- egberts1 4y agoI’m quite sure they are trying to automate this as well.
- wahnfrieden 4y agoyour citation still doesn't say much, just that most are at least still "preparing" or have rolled out a limited pilot, which is what I said originally
- egberts1 4y ago
- egberts1 4y agoOr that VP of Apple quoting from a movie called “Arthur” at an auto show resulting in him being fired. It has begun right here in the United States and we just are oblivious to these new dastardly form of social credits.
- Kukumber 4y agogovernment, FANG, it's all the same, the same group of lobby talking and coordinating with each other, hiring CIA agents and bunch of 'friends' https://mronline.org/2022/07/27/national-security-search-engine/ https://mronline.org/2022/07/27/national-security-search-eng... that's why the US wants to ban TikTok asap, because they don't want china to be able to do what they are doing for decades too > it would harm them because Twitter posts are unlikely to represent a meaningful variable when predicting someone's creditworthiness. people get fired and arrested already for posting stuff on twitter, in both the US and Europe, so no, it's not just just a "twitter moderation" thing Ask yourself why they are allowed to exist and still operate despite unable to grow and are loosing money for years, talk about anti-competitive practices, unless it's in reality a government body in disguise
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