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Anyone with a full-time job has spent about 8000 hours on that singular activity in the same timeframe. I'm not sure that tells us that what this guy is doing i

Anyone with a full-time job has spent about 8000 hours on that singular activity in the same timeframe. I'm not sure that tells us that what this guy is doing is healthy, but it does raise the question... is working the way we do healthy either?

warent 4y ago
I doubt you'll find many people here who will even consider what you're saying but it's really important. Basically the difference between living to work, and working to live, and how we should be mindful of balancing it all
- Bakary 4y ago
  The notion of work itself is strange. If you are autonomous in what you do, feel your mastery increasing as you go along, see your actions have an effect, and are well rewarded for it in terms of material wealth and social approval, few other things in life are going to compare. If you are missing most of these characteristics, it will daily torture.
Bakary 4y ago
It's certainly not healthy but I don't see the system changing until most of our lifetimes have already passed, making the question academic. Or perhaps we are not bold enough or ready for sacrifice in our commitment to finding alternatives.
maerF0x0 4y ago
8k hours on a job should be leading to portable artifacts that are difficult to take away: Something like 120K of income (probably closer to $200k), and a progression of skill development. Also could have intangibles like a feeling of contribution, socialization, purpose. Yes, exceptions exist. But many could make their job have these kinds of outcomes if they choose to do so
- swyx 4y ago
  you can trust that this professional streamer also walked away with some good money and increase in follower count
  - pb7 4y ago
    >professional streamer also walked away with some good money Most streamers make very little, including likely this person.
unity1001 4y ago
> is working the way we do healthy either? Hahahahaha. Hell no. Most today's overwork is for escaping financial insecurity, anxiety, due to obsessive-compulsive tendencies, making up for one's lack of self-worth or a mix of all of those...

warent 4y ago

I doubt you'll find many people here who will even consider what you're saying but it's really important. Basically the difference between living to work, and working to live, and how we should be mindful of balancing it all

Bakary 4y ago
The notion of work itself is strange. If you are autonomous in what you do, feel your mastery increasing as you go along, see your actions have an effect, and are well rewarded for it in terms of material wealth and social approval, few other things in life are going to compare. If you are missing most of these characteristics, it will daily torture.

Bakary 4y ago

It's certainly not healthy but I don't see the system changing until most of our lifetimes have already passed, making the question academic. Or perhaps we are not bold enough or ready for sacrifice in our commitment to finding alternatives.

maerF0x0 4y ago

8k hours on a job should be leading to portable artifacts that are difficult to take away: Something like 120K of income (probably closer to $200k), and a progression of skill development. Also could have intangibles like a feeling of contribution, socialization, purpose. Yes, exceptions exist. But many could make their job have these kinds of outcomes if they choose to do so

swyx 4y ago
you can trust that this professional streamer also walked away with some good money and increase in follower count
- pb7 4y ago
  >professional streamer also walked away with some good money Most streamers make very little, including likely this person.

unity1001 4y ago

> is working the way we do healthy either? Hahahahaha. Hell no. Most today's overwork is for escaping financial insecurity, anxiety, due to obsessive-compulsive tendencies, making up for one's lack of self-worth or a mix of all of those...