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It's down. What is it supposed to show?

curiousfab 4y ago
HN hug of death :( It showed/shows a side-by-side view of Open Street Map 2012 vs. 2022. See https://shtosm.ru/all/verni-mne-moy-2012/ https://shtosm.ru/all/verni-mne-moy-2012/ (or translated: https://shtosm-ru.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en https://shtosm-ru.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x... )
- moffkalast 4y ago
  I still don't quite see what the point is, both pictures seem very similar in terms of detail density, but with slightly different proportions. OSM editing is usually done over satelite imagery these days, so I would imagine the old one must've been very far off in some areas.
  - Zverik 4y ago
    The story of mapping is different for every corner of the world. E.g. in the blog post there's a pic where we mapped the city approximately due to absence of satellite imagery. In this post https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Zverik/diary/399925 https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Zverik/diary/399925 it shows that some regions like Africa were nearly empty ten years ago, before the Humanitarian OSM Team lauched their operations. And in 2012 the focus was mostly on basic map features like roads and rivers, while now we're adding final building outlines.
betamaxthetape 4y ago
It is a side-by-side comparison of OSM data from 2012 (left) and the current OSM data. In my local area the difference is massive: the 2012 data has some roads but that's about it, no buildings, house numbers, etc. That's all present on the 2022 version (disclaimer: partly because I spent several months walking around mapping things with the StreetComplete app [1]). For me it isn't down, just taking a very long time (multiple minutes) to load the 2012 data. [1] https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete
- capableweb 4y ago
  Is there something like StreetComplete for iOS?
  - Zverik 4y ago
    There are few editors for iOS, but all quite good. Try Every Door (https://apps.apple.com/app/every-door/id1621945342 https://apps.apple.com/app/every-door/id1621945342) and Go Map (https://apps.apple.com/app/id592990211 https://apps.apple.com/app/id592990211).
    - habi 4y ago
      Every Door is by Zverik, and it’s very good!
- Semaphor 4y ago
  I can’t open it, but here it’s the opposite :( OSM used to be amazing, better than google, now it’s horribly outdated. It shows several stores in my street that have closed over 6 years ago. I actually found StreetComplete a few days ago and have started fixing issues, at least for my neighborhood.
  - pwg 4y ago
    > now it’s horribly outdated. It shows several stores in my street that have closed over 6 years ago OSM is mostly volunteers, and if no one has happened by on your street in the last 6 years, then no one has noticed to update the map. > I actually found StreetComplete a few days ago and have started fixing issues, at least for my neighborhood. This is the expected outcome, locals fixing local issues. Given a sufficient amount of that, and you have a better map than googles offering. Of course, as you discovered, if no one is around to make the fixes, the data also goes stale.
  - Varyag 4y ago
    Cool. you're being the change you wish to see in the world :)

HN hug of death :( It showed/shows a side-by-side view of Open Street Map 2012 vs. 2022. See https://shtosm.ru/all/verni-mne-moy-2012/ https://shtosm.ru/all/verni-mne-moy-2012/ (or translated: https://shtosm-ru.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en https://shtosm-ru.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x... )

moffkalast 4y ago
I still don't quite see what the point is, both pictures seem very similar in terms of detail density, but with slightly different proportions. OSM editing is usually done over satelite imagery these days, so I would imagine the old one must've been very far off in some areas.
- Zverik 4y ago
  The story of mapping is different for every corner of the world. E.g. in the blog post there's a pic where we mapped the city approximately due to absence of satellite imagery. In this post https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Zverik/diary/399925 https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Zverik/diary/399925 it shows that some regions like Africa were nearly empty ten years ago, before the Humanitarian OSM Team lauched their operations. And in 2012 the focus was mostly on basic map features like roads and rivers, while now we're adding final building outlines.

betamaxthetape 4y ago

It is a side-by-side comparison of OSM data from 2012 (left) and the current OSM data. In my local area the difference is massive: the 2012 data has some roads but that's about it, no buildings, house numbers, etc. That's all present on the 2022 version (disclaimer: partly because I spent several months walking around mapping things with the StreetComplete app [1]). For me it isn't down, just taking a very long time (multiple minutes) to load the 2012 data. [1] https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete

capableweb 4y ago
Is there something like StreetComplete for iOS?
- Zverik 4y ago
  There are few editors for iOS, but all quite good. Try Every Door (https://apps.apple.com/app/every-door/id1621945342 https://apps.apple.com/app/every-door/id1621945342) and Go Map (https://apps.apple.com/app/id592990211 https://apps.apple.com/app/id592990211).
  - habi 4y ago
    Every Door is by Zverik, and it’s very good!
Semaphor 4y ago
I can’t open it, but here it’s the opposite :( OSM used to be amazing, better than google, now it’s horribly outdated. It shows several stores in my street that have closed over 6 years ago. I actually found StreetComplete a few days ago and have started fixing issues, at least for my neighborhood.
- pwg 4y ago
  > now it’s horribly outdated. It shows several stores in my street that have closed over 6 years ago OSM is mostly volunteers, and if no one has happened by on your street in the last 6 years, then no one has noticed to update the map. > I actually found StreetComplete a few days ago and have started fixing issues, at least for my neighborhood. This is the expected outcome, locals fixing local issues. Given a sufficient amount of that, and you have a better map than googles offering. Of course, as you discovered, if no one is around to make the fixes, the data also goes stale.
- Varyag 4y ago
  Cool. you're being the change you wish to see in the world :)