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Parag Agrawal Texts Elon Musk

26 points by synu 4y ago

pwinnski 4y ago
A: You are causing harm. B: What did you get done this week, tho? And here are the cheerleaders saying B is right, B's a hero, B's our man. Leaving whether or not Parag Agrawal is worth the suit he wears for another comment, he was definitely right that Musk was causing harm with his tweets. Again. Also highlighting how all-over-the-place Musk has been from the beginning re: twitter. Signing an accelerated contract for $44B one day and wanting out the next is nothing new in this process, which has been chaotic from the get-go.
Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
We are all Parag Agrawal on this blessed day. The good thing of standing up to bullies in a privileged place like SF is that there is essentially no downside, only missed upside. Also talking about missed upside...once your net worth is 10M (Parag should be there I think) you have "fuck you money" special powers over everybody including people like Musk, Bezos, Gates etc. There is no amount of money that would convince a mentally stable and financially secure person to deal with these bullies bullshit. Show them the finger without looking back, never love your passions more than you love yourself and your mental health.
- juancampa 4y ago
  10M? Did you mean billion? because that would be closer
  - Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
    Depends on each individual personality. For me that number could be around 100k because I have no problems overriding my passions in order to not deal with bullies BS. For some people their passions are strong so they need a higher number. For some unfortunate people there is no number and put up with bullies because some craft has penetrated their brain so much that they cannot stop doing it .
    - Fatnino 4y ago
      Grandparent comment says in SF. 10m is not fuck you money in sf.
      - fragmede 4y ago
        You can definitely spend $150+/yr in passive income in SF (or NYC or Miami), but at some point you have to realize that you're stuck on a hedonic treadmill and greed has graduated to avarice. $10m is a monumental amount of money for one person to have, even in SF.
        Fatnino 4y ago
        You can live more than comfortably on $10m in sf, but it's not going to go far for very long if you are blackballed from any work or other income. But I guess in that case you might as well take the bag of money and go live not in sf.
      - Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
        10M is fuck you money precisely because it's not imperative to live in SF
- sva_ 4y ago
  > Also talking about missed upside...once your net worth is 10M (Parag should be there I think) That's way less than even yearly compensation as Twitter CEO.
- sn0w_crash 4y ago
  Lol if you’re the CEO of a company and you’re knowingly scamming a buyer about your bot count, you’re not being bullied. You’re being caught.
  - saryant 4y ago
    Elon’s own data scientists agreed with Twitter’s bot count.
  - Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
    Parag is right, it turns out people don't like the feeling of pissing in the ocean. So many don't even bother adding a pic or changing their assigned username. What you and deluded Musk call "bots" are the same demographics which creates throwaways on Reddit and also on here just to answer a comment which enraged them. It's logical, and also proven elsewhere. It always amazes me the logical leap that cult members are willing to go through in order to elevate the cult leader who can't do no wrong.
    - s_ting765 4y ago
      No this was just Parag failing to read the room. You'd think a CEO of his level would appear more strategic when talking directly to a potential private buyer. Regarding Twitter's failure to disclose the number of bots. Musk is well within his rights to squeeze the tomato before he makes a price offer.
      - pwinnski 4y ago
        Right, and that time was before he signed a $44B contract, which was the price offer.
stevehind 4y ago
Some real true colours being shown in these texts (including the other thread where Elon talks about what a “hardcore engineer” he is).
- stevehind 4y ago
  ITT: people who like speaking power to truth.
this_user 4y ago
Musk is right though: What are they actually doing? It took them a decade or so to build an edit button despite having a head count of almost 8000. Reddit has less than 1000, and they are supporting a lot more features than Twitter.
- astorsnk 4y ago
  What a terrible take. Yep those 8000 people have been coding an edit button for the last decade. You can’t be serious?
  - betwixthewires 4y ago
    I think the point is "what were those 8000 people doing for a decade."
    - taolegal 4y ago
      I have a hard time seeing Twitter as anything but a communist make-work program & propaganda dissemination platform. The politics are obvious, and extend to other companies as well.
    - IncandescentGas 4y ago
      The obvious answer is working on non user facing features. Advertising platform, infrastructure, harmful content filters, propaganda as a service, etc etc
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
  What is Musk actually doing? Tesla is a 20 years old company, supposedly decades ahead of everybody and still hasn't matched the number of Porsches on the road. And I said Porsche. The quintessential luxury brand, not Ford or GM. Yes I know that people love their Porsches and are willing to spend money to keep them around and also collect them, but still it's crazy that a company which should be the backbone of the industrial economy still hasn't matched the number of Porsches. Twitter is a Tesla without the shameless hype and constant astroturfing and manufactured consensus.
stuckinhell 4y ago
Its strange, but I find myself agreeing with Musk heavily on the direction of Twitter. Twitter has a lot of potential but major cultural and directional change is needed at the company, it's become too much of echo chamber for one demographic being progressive liberals and cancel culture. In the early days of twitter, one of my former companies had ALOT of success with niche lead conversions to their SAAS. Twitter used to be a critical part of their sales funnel. I used to be able look at customer conversion data, and tell exactly what year the target market started checking out of twitter. I think there is still a strong market for extremely short-form content like tips/tricks, daily anecdotes, jokes, etc for users. We all have times in the day , where we are stuck waiting for a couple mins for something like a keurig or starbucks. This is where short-form content is king, and can drive engagement effectively to other services.
hdesh 4y ago
"What did you get done this week?" I've heard that before and my answers have rarely been great.
manciple-tun 4y ago
I cant believe these are real or fake. I wonder if this was SMS or Apple Messages? How are these obtained?
sn0w_crash 4y ago
“What did you get done this week” is the most savage verbal assault I’ve ever heard. 10/10
gist 4y ago
> Musk is right though: What are they actually doing? It took them a decade or so to build an edit button despite having a head count of almost 8000 True that they didn't get anything done and that they suck (I mean personally I hate twitter and almost everything about). But in fairness a statement like 'what did you get done this week' is what would I believe be called 'parental'. Similar to a parent complaining that a child is not cleaning up their room or 'playing games' (back prior to video games). Must doesn't want to actually have a conversation and understand what is going on he just wants to display his power in a stupid way. With a put down as if there is even going to be an answer to 'in a week'.

26 points by synu 4y ago

A: You are causing harm. B: What did you get done this week, tho? And here are the cheerleaders saying B is right, B's a hero, B's our man. Leaving whether or not Parag Agrawal is worth the suit he wears for another comment, he was definitely right that Musk was causing harm with his tweets. Again. Also highlighting how all-over-the-place Musk has been from the beginning re: twitter. Signing an accelerated contract for $44B one day and wanting out the next is nothing new in this process, which has been chaotic from the get-go.

Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago

We are all Parag Agrawal on this blessed day. The good thing of standing up to bullies in a privileged place like SF is that there is essentially no downside, only missed upside. Also talking about missed upside...once your net worth is 10M (Parag should be there I think) you have "fuck you money" special powers over everybody including people like Musk, Bezos, Gates etc. There is no amount of money that would convince a mentally stable and financially secure person to deal with these bullies bullshit. Show them the finger without looking back, never love your passions more than you love yourself and your mental health.

juancampa 4y ago
10M? Did you mean billion? because that would be closer
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
  Depends on each individual personality. For me that number could be around 100k because I have no problems overriding my passions in order to not deal with bullies BS. For some people their passions are strong so they need a higher number. For some unfortunate people there is no number and put up with bullies because some craft has penetrated their brain so much that they cannot stop doing it .
  - Fatnino 4y ago
    Grandparent comment says in SF. 10m is not fuck you money in sf.
    - fragmede 4y ago
      You can definitely spend $150+/yr in passive income in SF (or NYC or Miami), but at some point you have to realize that you're stuck on a hedonic treadmill and greed has graduated to avarice. $10m is a monumental amount of money for one person to have, even in SF.
      - Fatnino 4y ago
        You can live more than comfortably on $10m in sf, but it's not going to go far for very long if you are blackballed from any work or other income. But I guess in that case you might as well take the bag of money and go live not in sf.
    - Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
      10M is fuck you money precisely because it's not imperative to live in SF
sva_ 4y ago
> Also talking about missed upside...once your net worth is 10M (Parag should be there I think) That's way less than even yearly compensation as Twitter CEO.
sn0w_crash 4y ago
Lol if you’re the CEO of a company and you’re knowingly scamming a buyer about your bot count, you’re not being bullied. You’re being caught.
- saryant 4y ago
  Elon’s own data scientists agreed with Twitter’s bot count.
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
  Parag is right, it turns out people don't like the feeling of pissing in the ocean. So many don't even bother adding a pic or changing their assigned username. What you and deluded Musk call "bots" are the same demographics which creates throwaways on Reddit and also on here just to answer a comment which enraged them. It's logical, and also proven elsewhere. It always amazes me the logical leap that cult members are willing to go through in order to elevate the cult leader who can't do no wrong.
  - s_ting765 4y ago
    No this was just Parag failing to read the room. You'd think a CEO of his level would appear more strategic when talking directly to a potential private buyer. Regarding Twitter's failure to disclose the number of bots. Musk is well within his rights to squeeze the tomato before he makes a price offer.
    - pwinnski 4y ago
      Right, and that time was before he signed a $44B contract, which was the price offer.

stevehind 4y ago

Some real true colours being shown in these texts (including the other thread where Elon talks about what a “hardcore engineer” he is).

stevehind 4y ago
ITT: people who like speaking power to truth.

this_user 4y ago

Musk is right though: What are they actually doing? It took them a decade or so to build an edit button despite having a head count of almost 8000. Reddit has less than 1000, and they are supporting a lot more features than Twitter.

astorsnk 4y ago
What a terrible take. Yep those 8000 people have been coding an edit button for the last decade. You can’t be serious?
- betwixthewires 4y ago
  I think the point is "what were those 8000 people doing for a decade."
  - taolegal 4y ago
    I have a hard time seeing Twitter as anything but a communist make-work program & propaganda dissemination platform. The politics are obvious, and extend to other companies as well.
  - IncandescentGas 4y ago
    The obvious answer is working on non user facing features. Advertising platform, infrastructure, harmful content filters, propaganda as a service, etc etc
Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
What is Musk actually doing? Tesla is a 20 years old company, supposedly decades ahead of everybody and still hasn't matched the number of Porsches on the road. And I said Porsche. The quintessential luxury brand, not Ford or GM. Yes I know that people love their Porsches and are willing to spend money to keep them around and also collect them, but still it's crazy that a company which should be the backbone of the industrial economy still hasn't matched the number of Porsches. Twitter is a Tesla without the shameless hype and constant astroturfing and manufactured consensus.

stuckinhell 4y ago

Its strange, but I find myself agreeing with Musk heavily on the direction of Twitter. Twitter has a lot of potential but major cultural and directional change is needed at the company, it's become too much of echo chamber for one demographic being progressive liberals and cancel culture. In the early days of twitter, one of my former companies had ALOT of success with niche lead conversions to their SAAS. Twitter used to be a critical part of their sales funnel. I used to be able look at customer conversion data, and tell exactly what year the target market started checking out of twitter. I think there is still a strong market for extremely short-form content like tips/tricks, daily anecdotes, jokes, etc for users. We all have times in the day , where we are stuck waiting for a couple mins for something like a keurig or starbucks. This is where short-form content is king, and can drive engagement effectively to other services.

hdesh 4y ago

"What did you get done this week?" I've heard that before and my answers have rarely been great.

manciple-tun 4y ago

I cant believe these are real or fake. I wonder if this was SMS or Apple Messages? How are these obtained?

sn0w_crash 4y ago

“What did you get done this week” is the most savage verbal assault I’ve ever heard. 10/10

gist 4y ago

> Musk is right though: What are they actually doing? It took them a decade or so to build an edit button despite having a head count of almost 8000 True that they didn't get anything done and that they suck (I mean personally I hate twitter and almost everything about). But in fairness a statement like 'what did you get done this week' is what would I believe be called 'parental'. Similar to a parent complaining that a child is not cleaning up their room or 'playing games' (back prior to video games). Must doesn't want to actually have a conversation and understand what is going on he just wants to display his power in a stupid way. With a put down as if there is even going to be an answer to 'in a week'.