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The random segment about transgenders felt really out of place. I wonder where the speechwriters get their materials from. The other interesting part is that h

The random segment about transgenders felt really out of place. I wonder where the speechwriters get their materials from. The other interesting part is that he quite clearly accused USA/UK of bombing NS1+2, which I guess is now the Russian state position on the matter

stoltzmann 4y ago
It's just a laundry list of 'pick an argument against the West'. Every part of their public can find a part of the speech to agree with.
paganel 4y ago
> The random segment about transgenders felt really out of place It's really something that we actively discuss in these parts of the world (Eastern Europe), it's a "civilisational" topic that most of us (the majority, I would say) actively care about. Yes, many of us (the majority, I would say) are not ok with "parent 1/parent 2" instead of "mother" and "father", we are also not ok with kids as young as 7 or 8 years of age being taught about gender change, we are not ok with kids younger than 18 being allowed to take irreversible hormonal meds in order to transition. And seeing as this is also a "civilisational" war I don't see how that statement was out of place, quite the contrary.
- kelseyfrog 4y ago
  Is this one of those "actual majority" situations or one of those "vocal minority get's mixed up and thinks they are a majority" cases? I'm asking because typically when I see majority claims, far too often it is the later.
- _V_ 4y ago
  I honestly don't care about that at all. Noone I know really cares about that so I would say the "majority" really depends on your social bubble :-) Right now I care whether we will get nuked. Everything else is a worry for a later day.
- Animatronio 4y ago
  No way this is "actively discussed" in Eastern Europe. Maybe it comes up from time to time but it is no way a significant topic. BTW, I'm aware you are from Ro, so am I.
  - paganel 4y ago
    I did discuss this with close friends who have just become parents, he works for a FAANG company, she works for a big European retailer, no way any of them would discuss this publicly at their work-place or mention anything about it on their social media profiles, for obvious reasons. True, though, we tend to discuss more about how expensive things became (this is more recent, though) and the perennial subject about real estate (and how expensive it is), but this is a general topic of conversation among the Western middle-classes.
- neoromantique 4y ago
  Hi from Eastern Europe! There are indeed many of you, but that is changing and I definitely wouldn't be so sure about you being majority anymore. And now that Russia is all tied up and can't meddle in our public sphere as much, I expect you lot to thin out into obscurity :).

stoltzmann 4y ago

It's just a laundry list of 'pick an argument against the West'. Every part of their public can find a part of the speech to agree with.

paganel 4y ago

> The random segment about transgenders felt really out of place It's really something that we actively discuss in these parts of the world (Eastern Europe), it's a "civilisational" topic that most of us (the majority, I would say) actively care about. Yes, many of us (the majority, I would say) are not ok with "parent 1/parent 2" instead of "mother" and "father", we are also not ok with kids as young as 7 or 8 years of age being taught about gender change, we are not ok with kids younger than 18 being allowed to take irreversible hormonal meds in order to transition. And seeing as this is also a "civilisational" war I don't see how that statement was out of place, quite the contrary.

kelseyfrog 4y ago
Is this one of those "actual majority" situations or one of those "vocal minority get's mixed up and thinks they are a majority" cases? I'm asking because typically when I see majority claims, far too often it is the later.
_V_ 4y ago
I honestly don't care about that at all. Noone I know really cares about that so I would say the "majority" really depends on your social bubble :-) Right now I care whether we will get nuked. Everything else is a worry for a later day.
Animatronio 4y ago
No way this is "actively discussed" in Eastern Europe. Maybe it comes up from time to time but it is no way a significant topic. BTW, I'm aware you are from Ro, so am I.
- paganel 4y ago
  I did discuss this with close friends who have just become parents, he works for a FAANG company, she works for a big European retailer, no way any of them would discuss this publicly at their work-place or mention anything about it on their social media profiles, for obvious reasons. True, though, we tend to discuss more about how expensive things became (this is more recent, though) and the perennial subject about real estate (and how expensive it is), but this is a general topic of conversation among the Western middle-classes.
neoromantique 4y ago
Hi from Eastern Europe! There are indeed many of you, but that is changing and I definitely wouldn't be so sure about you being majority anymore. And now that Russia is all tied up and can't meddle in our public sphere as much, I expect you lot to thin out into obscurity :).