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This article is full of such strange implied absolutisms and "just-so" stories. The silliest and most striking one is probably "Japanese women invented and pion

This article is full of such strange implied absolutisms and "just-so" stories. The silliest and most striking one is probably "Japanese women invented and pioneered emoji". As far as I know the :) symbol was first used by an American man, and there was no specific gendered usage of emoji afterwards.

YurgenJurgensen 4y ago
Emoji and emoticons are not the same.
- subjectsigma 4y ago
  Yes, this is technically true, however this is pedantic nitpickery that's besides the point. 1) The article specifically mentions emoji. 2) Emoticons and emoji are extremely related concepts and emoticons influenced the development of emoji. 3) Neither emoji nor emoticons were invented or popularized by women AFAICT. Pointing out that they are not the same thing doesn't mean that emoji or emoticons were invented by women or for women, which is what the article basically said outright. My original point was: if the article gets silly things like "emoji are feminine" completely wrong, why can I trust the other things it says?
- LBJsPNS 4y ago
  Thank dog.
krapp 4y ago
"emoji" is a Japanese term. They were invented by Japanese phone manufacturer DoCoMo, and popularized in the west when implemented by the iPhone.
- subjectsigma 4y ago
  Yes, thank you, I can read Wikipedia as well. This does not support the articles statement that emoji and/or emoticons were invented and popularized by women, or that emoji/emoticons are specifically feminine.
  - krapp 4y ago
    >This does not support the articles statement that emoji and/or emoticons were invented and popularized by women, or that emoji/emoticons are specifically feminine. It wasn't intended to, it was intended to correct your assertion that emojis were first used by American men, apparently on the basis of having glanced at the result of a Google search. The article itself never claims women invented emoji, nor that they are specifically feminine. It does claim that Japanese women were, by virtue of Japanese culture allowing them to follow 'childish' trends more so than their male peers, a predominant force in the shaping of kawaii culture and the adoption of emoji, making their usage more associated with feminine than masculine behavior. It's honestly weird that you're so hung up on this.
    - subjectsigma 4y ago
      > The article itself never claims women invented emoji, nor that they are specifically feminine. It does, it is included in a paragraph about things that women created/popularized. > It's honestly weird that you're so hung up on this. Yeah I'll admit that. I was thinking about it when writing my comment. I think I have seen too many 'just-so' stories about Japan and become hypersensitive to them.

YurgenJurgensen 4y ago

Emoji and emoticons are not the same.

subjectsigma 4y ago
Yes, this is technically true, however this is pedantic nitpickery that's besides the point. 1) The article specifically mentions emoji. 2) Emoticons and emoji are extremely related concepts and emoticons influenced the development of emoji. 3) Neither emoji nor emoticons were invented or popularized by women AFAICT. Pointing out that they are not the same thing doesn't mean that emoji or emoticons were invented by women or for women, which is what the article basically said outright. My original point was: if the article gets silly things like "emoji are feminine" completely wrong, why can I trust the other things it says?
LBJsPNS 4y ago
Thank dog.

krapp 4y ago

"emoji" is a Japanese term. They were invented by Japanese phone manufacturer DoCoMo, and popularized in the west when implemented by the iPhone.

subjectsigma 4y ago
Yes, thank you, I can read Wikipedia as well. This does not support the articles statement that emoji and/or emoticons were invented and popularized by women, or that emoji/emoticons are specifically feminine.
- krapp 4y ago
  >This does not support the articles statement that emoji and/or emoticons were invented and popularized by women, or that emoji/emoticons are specifically feminine. It wasn't intended to, it was intended to correct your assertion that emojis were first used by American men, apparently on the basis of having glanced at the result of a Google search. The article itself never claims women invented emoji, nor that they are specifically feminine. It does claim that Japanese women were, by virtue of Japanese culture allowing them to follow 'childish' trends more so than their male peers, a predominant force in the shaping of kawaii culture and the adoption of emoji, making their usage more associated with feminine than masculine behavior. It's honestly weird that you're so hung up on this.
  - subjectsigma 4y ago
    > The article itself never claims women invented emoji, nor that they are specifically feminine. It does, it is included in a paragraph about things that women created/popularized. > It's honestly weird that you're so hung up on this. Yeah I'll admit that. I was thinking about it when writing my comment. I think I have seen too many 'just-so' stories about Japan and become hypersensitive to them.