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And then, he returned a rocket from space and had it land vertically. Heck he's doing it consistently, and even synchronized on occasion. Musk is a flawed dude

by rocqua 4y ago

And then, he returned a rocket from space and had it land vertically. Heck he's doing it consistently, and even synchronized on occasion. Musk is a flawed dude, but the physics behind space-x aren't his weak point.

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bamboozled 4y ago
He did none of that single-handedly though. Thousands, maybe millions of ours of man hours went into making all that happen. What spurred my original comment was that when I hear him talk, I think he does fail to acknowledge the people around him a little to conveniently. I don't care, I just don't think it's a good quality and I think longer term, it will probably lead to him having lower performing teams and people around him.
- xedeon 4y ago
  > What spurred my original comment was that when I hear him talk, I think he does fail to acknowledge the people around him a little to conveniently I'm not sure if you're being facetious here. There are countless examples that exhibit the contrary. Here is one as recent as a few days ago: https://youtu.be/goT5gW57Chc?t=190 https://youtu.be/goT5gW57Chc?t=190 Below are a few (out of many others) prior examples: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1051591623069429760 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1051591623069429760 https://twitter.com/heydave7/status/1536015578091048960 https://twitter.com/heydave7/status/1536015578091048960
  - bamboozled 4y ago
    See my comment below but TL;DR I’d like to hear a bit more about “the great team” rather than Musk because I know behind that interview what hard work people are going through to make the things he is showing off happen. “Great job team…thanks for making me trillions” https://twitter.com/heydave7/status/1536015578091048960 https://twitter.com/heydave7/status/1536015578091048960 This one , as someone who often reads these types of mails is just a pep talk, to tell someone they respect me more than a rich person isn’t very flattering. Look I think you just like Elon Musk a lot. I don’t mind him either, I just know almost all of his success is built on the back of a lot of hard working individuals, which I think is pretty hidden behind a dude in XXXL T-shirts
    - xedeon 4y ago
      Here you go: https://youtu.be/KeswYJgf5mM https://youtu.be/KeswYJgf5mM > I’d like to hear a bit more about… Not everything is about you and the world doesn’t owe you anything. I’m afraid.
      - bamboozled 4y ago
        You got to say it, congrats
      - bamboozled 4y ago
        I actually thought more about this and I am curious, why you sent that video, what goalposts are you referring too? I'm saying that I personally believe that Musk can have a pretty large ego at times, I don't find him to be a particularly humble person. I cite the time he injected himself into the Thai Cave Rescue and then called the guy who rejected his ideas a "pedo guy"? That's the type of thing I'm talking about. Whenever I see him interviewed I can't help think of all the smart people who help him become that successful...why are you so worried about that? I think that thread with JD is kind of reflective of my feelings. It's a blasé way to talk about a fairly large scale project which would have pretty big large impacts for a lot of people, including shareholders and employees at the company (Twitter), and to just talk about it like you're inviting someone to the movies seemed funny to me. It almost just feels like you had that link bookmarked and were looking for someone to send it too?
    - mavhc 4y ago
      Almost all of everyone's success is built on the back of a lot of hard working individuals. Questions are how do you get the best people, what do you tell them to work on, and how do you get good results?
- drstewart 4y ago
  >He did none of that single-handedly though Can you name some engineering accomplishments that have been done "single-handedly" and thus qualify as real engineering?
  - BackBlast 4y ago
    You just have to love the different collapsible goal posts everyone sets up for each other.
    - bamboozled 4y ago
      What are you actually talking about, what goalposts ?
  - xedeon 4y ago
    > Can you name some engineering accomplishments that have been done "single-handedly" and thus qualify as real engineering? I'm actually very curious on what the response to this will be.
  - bamboozled 4y ago
    No because nearly every single complicated thing we’ve done, every problem solved has likely been done on the back of prior knowledge or technologies which were provided by others, there in lies my point. You watch someone like Musk and you enjoy the spectacle and the idea of an engineering hero billionaire, or you realise that while he may have brilliant ideas and moments, I find he often fails to acknowledge the fact that he isn’t an island and even if he says things like, “I have a great team” I think it’s not enough because I’m generally one of those people who spends a LOT of time solving problems for other people within a team to help make complicated things happen…I wouldn’t have the time to go on TV half of the time which I why I likely know who is doing the real work.

by rocqua 4y ago

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bamboozled 4y ago

He did none of that single-handedly though. Thousands, maybe millions of ours of man hours went into making all that happen. What spurred my original comment was that when I hear him talk, I think he does fail to acknowledge the people around him a little to conveniently. I don't care, I just don't think it's a good quality and I think longer term, it will probably lead to him having lower performing teams and people around him.

xedeon 4y ago
> What spurred my original comment was that when I hear him talk, I think he does fail to acknowledge the people around him a little to conveniently I'm not sure if you're being facetious here. There are countless examples that exhibit the contrary. Here is one as recent as a few days ago: https://youtu.be/goT5gW57Chc?t=190 https://youtu.be/goT5gW57Chc?t=190 Below are a few (out of many others) prior examples: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1051591623069429760 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1051591623069429760 https://twitter.com/heydave7/status/1536015578091048960 https://twitter.com/heydave7/status/1536015578091048960
- bamboozled 4y ago
  See my comment below but TL;DR I’d like to hear a bit more about “the great team” rather than Musk because I know behind that interview what hard work people are going through to make the things he is showing off happen. “Great job team…thanks for making me trillions” https://twitter.com/heydave7/status/1536015578091048960 https://twitter.com/heydave7/status/1536015578091048960 This one , as someone who often reads these types of mails is just a pep talk, to tell someone they respect me more than a rich person isn’t very flattering. Look I think you just like Elon Musk a lot. I don’t mind him either, I just know almost all of his success is built on the back of a lot of hard working individuals, which I think is pretty hidden behind a dude in XXXL T-shirts
  - xedeon 4y ago
    Here you go: https://youtu.be/KeswYJgf5mM https://youtu.be/KeswYJgf5mM > I’d like to hear a bit more about… Not everything is about you and the world doesn’t owe you anything. I’m afraid.
    - bamboozled 4y ago
      You got to say it, congrats
    - bamboozled 4y ago
      I actually thought more about this and I am curious, why you sent that video, what goalposts are you referring too? I'm saying that I personally believe that Musk can have a pretty large ego at times, I don't find him to be a particularly humble person. I cite the time he injected himself into the Thai Cave Rescue and then called the guy who rejected his ideas a "pedo guy"? That's the type of thing I'm talking about. Whenever I see him interviewed I can't help think of all the smart people who help him become that successful...why are you so worried about that? I think that thread with JD is kind of reflective of my feelings. It's a blasé way to talk about a fairly large scale project which would have pretty big large impacts for a lot of people, including shareholders and employees at the company (Twitter), and to just talk about it like you're inviting someone to the movies seemed funny to me. It almost just feels like you had that link bookmarked and were looking for someone to send it too?
  - mavhc 4y ago
    Almost all of everyone's success is built on the back of a lot of hard working individuals. Questions are how do you get the best people, what do you tell them to work on, and how do you get good results?
drstewart 4y ago
>He did none of that single-handedly though Can you name some engineering accomplishments that have been done "single-handedly" and thus qualify as real engineering?
- BackBlast 4y ago
  You just have to love the different collapsible goal posts everyone sets up for each other.
  - bamboozled 4y ago
    What are you actually talking about, what goalposts ?
- xedeon 4y ago
  > Can you name some engineering accomplishments that have been done "single-handedly" and thus qualify as real engineering? I'm actually very curious on what the response to this will be.
- bamboozled 4y ago
  No because nearly every single complicated thing we’ve done, every problem solved has likely been done on the back of prior knowledge or technologies which were provided by others, there in lies my point. You watch someone like Musk and you enjoy the spectacle and the idea of an engineering hero billionaire, or you realise that while he may have brilliant ideas and moments, I find he often fails to acknowledge the fact that he isn’t an island and even if he says things like, “I have a great team” I think it’s not enough because I’m generally one of those people who spends a LOT of time solving problems for other people within a team to help make complicated things happen…I wouldn’t have the time to go on TV half of the time which I why I likely know who is doing the real work.