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Annoying, yes. But you can turn them off in the settings page.

by sophrocyne 4y ago

mort96 4y ago
You can, but it's not about that. Ads don't belong in browser UI, full stop.
- laundermaf 4y ago
  Browsers used to be paid software.
  - hk__2 4y ago
    > Browsers used to be paid software. AFAIK the big ones have always been free, except for Netscape between 1995 and 1998.
    - laundermaf 4y ago
      IE 1.0 was included in a "Windows 95 Plus!" which was sold for $50 in 1994; However it was short-lived and it was included in later releases of Windows [1] Netscape was sold for $50 [2] Opera was sold (can't find the price) [3] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Plus!#Microsoft_Plus!_for_Windows_95 [2]: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/netscape-navigator-2-0-hits-the-streets/ [3]: https://web.archive.org/web/20081013235150/http://my.opera.com/Rijk/blog/2006/02/15/rendering-engines-and-code-names
      - hk__2 4y ago
        Thanks. I don’t think this really changes the point that no big browser have ever been paid for except Netscape. The "paid for" period of IE is insignificant (and it was barely used at the time) and Opera never had more than 3% of market share when it was free [1], let alone when it was paid for. [1]: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/internet-browser-market-share/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/internet-browser-market-sha...
    - folmar 4y ago
      And Opera 1995-2005 (ads alternative to money since 2000).
  - hwestiii 4y ago
    Never.
    - darkwater 4y ago
      Opera was a paid software
  - animitronix 4y ago
    What world are you living in?
    - laundermaf 4y ago
      Sigh. https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/netscape-cuts-prices-on-retail-products/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/netscape-cuts-prices...
- pas 4y ago
  why? there's no standard or moral law that says this. there have been countless examples of watch-ads-get-X schemes. I remember back in the dialup era it was seen as a way to get online. (then fortunately technology and the market progressed and these died out.) also, let's not forget that the browser market was always fucked up.
  - gilrain 4y ago
    The browser is traditionally the “user agent”. An agent operating in my interests does not advertise to me.
    - LoganDark 4y ago
      I personally believe that the goal of ads should not be to hook you on new products just because they can. They should not be to sell you on a problem that you don't have. They should not be to pile on tons of "marketing" and look professional and presentable and whatever. Ads should show you things that you needed anyway; things you wouldn't have known to look for, or didn't find when you did. Things that actually solve problems that you actually have, where you see the utility as soon as you see them. For example, 45drives has their ads down. They contain nothing more than a little joke, a product image, and a link to their website. You'll know if you need it; they're not trying to market to you or convince you of anything. They know you will come when you're ready. Advertising culture is currently extremely hostile and I hate it.

Annoying, yes. But you can turn them off in the settings page.

mort96 4y ago

You can, but it's not about that. Ads don't belong in browser UI, full stop.

laundermaf 4y ago
Browsers used to be paid software.
- hk__2 4y ago
  > Browsers used to be paid software. AFAIK the big ones have always been free, except for Netscape between 1995 and 1998.
  - laundermaf 4y ago
    IE 1.0 was included in a "Windows 95 Plus!" which was sold for $50 in 1994; However it was short-lived and it was included in later releases of Windows [1] Netscape was sold for $50 [2] Opera was sold (can't find the price) [3] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Plus!#Microsoft_Plus!_for_Windows_95 [2]: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/netscape-navigator-2-0-hits-the-streets/ [3]: https://web.archive.org/web/20081013235150/http://my.opera.com/Rijk/blog/2006/02/15/rendering-engines-and-code-names
    - hk__2 4y ago
      Thanks. I don’t think this really changes the point that no big browser have ever been paid for except Netscape. The "paid for" period of IE is insignificant (and it was barely used at the time) and Opera never had more than 3% of market share when it was free [1], let alone when it was paid for. [1]: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/internet-browser-market-share/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/internet-browser-market-sha...
  - folmar 4y ago
    And Opera 1995-2005 (ads alternative to money since 2000).
- hwestiii 4y ago
  Never.
  - darkwater 4y ago
    Opera was a paid software
- animitronix 4y ago
  What world are you living in?
  - laundermaf 4y ago
    Sigh. https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/netscape-cuts-prices-on-retail-products/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/netscape-cuts-prices...
pas 4y ago
why? there's no standard or moral law that says this. there have been countless examples of watch-ads-get-X schemes. I remember back in the dialup era it was seen as a way to get online. (then fortunately technology and the market progressed and these died out.) also, let's not forget that the browser market was always fucked up.
- gilrain 4y ago
  The browser is traditionally the “user agent”. An agent operating in my interests does not advertise to me.
  - LoganDark 4y ago
    I personally believe that the goal of ads should not be to hook you on new products just because they can. They should not be to sell you on a problem that you don't have. They should not be to pile on tons of "marketing" and look professional and presentable and whatever. Ads should show you things that you needed anyway; things you wouldn't have known to look for, or didn't find when you did. Things that actually solve problems that you actually have, where you see the utility as soon as you see them. For example, 45drives has their ads down. They contain nothing more than a little joke, a product image, and a link to their website. You'll know if you need it; they're not trying to market to you or convince you of anything. They know you will come when you're ready. Advertising culture is currently extremely hostile and I hate it.