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CBS is America, not Russian? The history of Ukrainian political corruption predates the war from Russia. Russia is a corrupt aggressor, but that does not mean

CBS is America, not Russian? The history of Ukrainian political corruption predates the war from Russia. Russia is a corrupt aggressor, but that does not mean Ukrainian abuses should be ignored. Zelensky is not allowing Ukrainian citizens the freedom to leave the country for safety. How is it different now?

qaq 4y ago
What does limiting who can leave the country during war time have to do with corruption? The narrative of Ukraine loosing most western weapons was started by Russia and then they dropped it since UA advance was clearly showing them to be total BS.
- nosuchthing 4y ago
  Zelensky gets more money the longer the war drags on. If Ukrainians are allowed freedom to exit to safety, then Zelensky and the oligarchs will not reep as much donations. Interpol chief is Russian?? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapons-end-up-criminal-hands-says-interpol-chief-jurgen-stock https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapon... lol you have no idea what you’re talking about.
  - qaq 4y ago
    You obviously do. Yes Ukraine should just surrender and no you are not spreading Russia propaganda
  - Anthony-G 4y ago
    > lol you have no idea what you’re talking about You have added some useful links to this discussion but this is the second time you’ve undermined your own argument by laughing at the person you’re responding to. Please be aware of the Hacker News Guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.
  - agapon 4y ago
    Note how the Interpol chief used the future tense. Why did he talk about the future with such certainty? It would be unthinkable that he was "influence" to make such claims for a certain purpose.
_kbh_ 4y ago
> CBS is America, not Russian? The history of Ukrainian political corruption predates the war from Russia. CBS is American but this idea that the majority of weapons aren’t being in Ukraine cause they are being sold or stolen or lost _is propaganda_. Nothing supports this idea for the current phase of the war and people have generally moved on from this narrative.

qaq 4y ago

What does limiting who can leave the country during war time have to do with corruption? The narrative of Ukraine loosing most western weapons was started by Russia and then they dropped it since UA advance was clearly showing them to be total BS.

nosuchthing 4y ago
Zelensky gets more money the longer the war drags on. If Ukrainians are allowed freedom to exit to safety, then Zelensky and the oligarchs will not reep as much donations. Interpol chief is Russian?? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapons-end-up-criminal-hands-says-interpol-chief-jurgen-stock https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapon... lol you have no idea what you’re talking about.
- qaq 4y ago
  You obviously do. Yes Ukraine should just surrender and no you are not spreading Russia propaganda
- Anthony-G 4y ago
  > lol you have no idea what you’re talking about You have added some useful links to this discussion but this is the second time you’ve undermined your own argument by laughing at the person you’re responding to. Please be aware of the Hacker News Guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.
- agapon 4y ago
  Note how the Interpol chief used the future tense. Why did he talk about the future with such certainty? It would be unthinkable that he was "influence" to make such claims for a certain purpose.

_kbh_ 4y ago

> CBS is America, not Russian? The history of Ukrainian political corruption predates the war from Russia. CBS is American but this idea that the majority of weapons aren’t being in Ukraine cause they are being sold or stolen or lost _is propaganda_. Nothing supports this idea for the current phase of the war and people have generally moved on from this narrative.