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TLDR only if you start with blue color

bryanrasmussen 4y ago
Quote: a charming, surprised-looking face with wide, slate-grey eyes – similar in shape to his father's brown eyes, but closer in colour to his mother's green. By his second birthday, however, the pictures revealed he had become a happy toddler with eyes the same dark brown shade as his father's, with all trace of the dark grey of those early photographs gone. The article talks about a study where those with blue eyes changed, but it does not definitely say only blue eyes change color.
- Tarsul 4y ago
  I remember a few articles about eye color and it basically said that blue is the starting point and it goes from there. Which is why I read that medical operations to get blue eyes are/would be the easiest as you basically only fix what has changed instead of generating new colors. (but I am no expert by any means so take it with a grain of salt)
  - vanderZwan 4y ago
    Only in the sense of having no pigment. If one were to speak in terms of genetic history I'd expect the opposite: brown would come first, and blue would be one of the most recent mutations.
- Markoff 4y ago
  maybe next time don't quote something author made up and quote actual study: > One study led by Cassie Ludwig, an ophthalmologist at the Byers Eye Institute at Stanford University, tracked 148 babies born at Lucile Packard Children's Hospital in California, recording their iris colour at birth. Nearly two-thirds of babies were born with brown eyes, and one-fifth with blue. > Two years later, Ludwig and her colleagues found that of the 40 blue-eyed babies in the study, 11 had brown eyes by the age of two, three had hazel, and two had green. Of the 77 brown-eyed newborns, almost all (73) still had brown eyes at the age of two. Most of the children (2/3) in study were born with brown color, pretty much none of these 2/3 changed the color. There was rare group (1/5) born with blue eyes where 40% (2/5) changed color. So TLDR only when you start with blue color* *for nitpickers - there is extremely small chance you will change color, if you start with color other than brown or blue Of course it depends on country, in many European countries blue/grey is very common and brown definitely doesn't amke 2/3 of newborns. But it's truth same as with hair you don't go from dark to light, it's possible only the other way. I was born with completely blonde hair, now I have light brown and from what I see other kids blonde baby is pretty much standard, but seeing blonde adults it's relatively rare.
  - bryanrasmussen 4y ago
    >maybe next time don't quote something author made up and quote actual study thanks for pointing out the author was untrustworthy, I didn't know that! >*for nitpickers - there is extremely small chance you will change color, if you start with color other than brown or blue it seems a little bit much to nag about reading actual study but then noting a 'for nitpickers' that contradicts your TLDR. I mean nitpickers is generally where the science is found at. >But it's truth same as with hair you don't go from dark to light, it's possible only the other way. maybe nitpicking, but most people go from dark to light eventually, unless they just go to bald. two last points, as I noted in other post I went from blue to brown/hazel to blue and that my eye color now varies between various lightness of blue and I don't think the study you refer is that overwhelming that one can say only for blue eyed given it seems to be for a very limited age range in a study that is not very large and probably not especially diverse.
vanderZwan 4y ago
No, the article just starts with citing research done on babies with blue eyes. But it elaborates on that later on. For example: > Though the data is limited and has only been carried out in just one country, the US, changes in eye colour appears to be most common among people with Northern European, Pacific Islander or mixed-race heritage. Which checks out for me personally: I'm mixed Dutch-Chinese, my Dutch father has blue eyes and my Chinese mother has dark brown eyes. My sisters and I were born with eyes so dark they looked black, almost as if we had no iris. They lightened to dark brown as we grew up.
- Markoff 4y ago
  yeah, right, only with blue eyes > One study led by Cassie Ludwig, an ophthalmologist at the Byers Eye Institute at Stanford University, tracked 148 babies born at Lucile Packard Children's Hospital in California, recording their iris colour at birth. Nearly two-thirds of babies were born with brown eyes, and one-fifth with blue. > Two years later, Ludwig and her colleagues found that of the 40 blue-eyed babies in the study, 11 had brown eyes by the age of two, three had hazel, and two had green. Of the 77 brown-eyed newborns, almost all (73) still had brown eyes at the age of two.

Quote: a charming, surprised-looking face with wide, slate-grey eyes – similar in shape to his father's brown eyes, but closer in colour to his mother's green. By his second birthday, however, the pictures revealed he had become a happy toddler with eyes the same dark brown shade as his father's, with all trace of the dark grey of those early photographs gone. The article talks about a study where those with blue eyes changed, but it does not definitely say only blue eyes change color.

Tarsul 4y ago
I remember a few articles about eye color and it basically said that blue is the starting point and it goes from there. Which is why I read that medical operations to get blue eyes are/would be the easiest as you basically only fix what has changed instead of generating new colors. (but I am no expert by any means so take it with a grain of salt)
- vanderZwan 4y ago
  Only in the sense of having no pigment. If one were to speak in terms of genetic history I'd expect the opposite: brown would come first, and blue would be one of the most recent mutations.
Markoff 4y ago
maybe next time don't quote something author made up and quote actual study: > One study led by Cassie Ludwig, an ophthalmologist at the Byers Eye Institute at Stanford University, tracked 148 babies born at Lucile Packard Children's Hospital in California, recording their iris colour at birth. Nearly two-thirds of babies were born with brown eyes, and one-fifth with blue. > Two years later, Ludwig and her colleagues found that of the 40 blue-eyed babies in the study, 11 had brown eyes by the age of two, three had hazel, and two had green. Of the 77 brown-eyed newborns, almost all (73) still had brown eyes at the age of two. Most of the children (2/3) in study were born with brown color, pretty much none of these 2/3 changed the color. There was rare group (1/5) born with blue eyes where 40% (2/5) changed color. So TLDR only when you start with blue color* *for nitpickers - there is extremely small chance you will change color, if you start with color other than brown or blue Of course it depends on country, in many European countries blue/grey is very common and brown definitely doesn't amke 2/3 of newborns. But it's truth same as with hair you don't go from dark to light, it's possible only the other way. I was born with completely blonde hair, now I have light brown and from what I see other kids blonde baby is pretty much standard, but seeing blonde adults it's relatively rare.
- bryanrasmussen 4y ago
  >maybe next time don't quote something author made up and quote actual study thanks for pointing out the author was untrustworthy, I didn't know that! >*for nitpickers - there is extremely small chance you will change color, if you start with color other than brown or blue it seems a little bit much to nag about reading actual study but then noting a 'for nitpickers' that contradicts your TLDR. I mean nitpickers is generally where the science is found at. >But it's truth same as with hair you don't go from dark to light, it's possible only the other way. maybe nitpicking, but most people go from dark to light eventually, unless they just go to bald. two last points, as I noted in other post I went from blue to brown/hazel to blue and that my eye color now varies between various lightness of blue and I don't think the study you refer is that overwhelming that one can say only for blue eyed given it seems to be for a very limited age range in a study that is not very large and probably not especially diverse.

vanderZwan 4y ago

No, the article just starts with citing research done on babies with blue eyes. But it elaborates on that later on. For example: > Though the data is limited and has only been carried out in just one country, the US, changes in eye colour appears to be most common among people with Northern European, Pacific Islander or mixed-race heritage. Which checks out for me personally: I'm mixed Dutch-Chinese, my Dutch father has blue eyes and my Chinese mother has dark brown eyes. My sisters and I were born with eyes so dark they looked black, almost as if we had no iris. They lightened to dark brown as we grew up.

Markoff 4y ago
yeah, right, only with blue eyes > One study led by Cassie Ludwig, an ophthalmologist at the Byers Eye Institute at Stanford University, tracked 148 babies born at Lucile Packard Children's Hospital in California, recording their iris colour at birth. Nearly two-thirds of babies were born with brown eyes, and one-fifth with blue. > Two years later, Ludwig and her colleagues found that of the 40 blue-eyed babies in the study, 11 had brown eyes by the age of two, three had hazel, and two had green. Of the 77 brown-eyed newborns, almost all (73) still had brown eyes at the age of two.