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>> If you are willing to tolerate people being hurt and killed by stray gunfire. This is implicitly baked into the 2nd-amendment cause. It's the primary reason
by bruce511 4y ago
>> If you are willing to tolerate people being hurt and killed by stray gunfire.
This is implicitly baked into the 2nd-amendment cause. It's the primary reason this is such a hot-button political issue.
Nothing comes for free. Every benefit has a cost. In the case of guns some part of the population belive (strongly) that the benefits outweigh the costs. The rest (strongly) believe the opposite.
The benefit of gun ownership is the idea that the citizenry can overthrow a future hypothetical tyrannical government [1]. The cost is the many lives lost in the real world now.
While it may be impossible to say, the phrase "if a few children must die to protect our way-of-life, then that's a price worth paying" springs to mind.
[1] the actual efficacy of such a resistance may be questionable (it didn't help the confederacy for example) that's not really the point. The argument is that merely the threat of such an uprising prevents the tyrannical govt from forming in the first place.
Of course the argument may be nonsense. New Zealand has survived tyrany with little to no gun ownership, whereas tyrany in places with high ownership, like say Iraq, is not uncommon - which suggests there are other factors in play.
But the quality of the argument is not material. The fact is that a significant number of people believe that guns are important, and that the cost of guns is worth paying.
Ultimately that is the problem that is "not solvable".
- mrguyorama 4y agoFunny, the same people that talk about needing guns to protect them from a tyrannical government get real shy about actually using those guns against a government they claim to be tyrannical. I'm tired of defending a "right" to protect from "tyranny" when everything seems to come down to a "Not true tyranny (yet)" fallacy. More importantly, women in the US are literally dying due to tyrannical oppression from their government. Where are the people with guns to fight said government?
- dragonsky 4y agoSeems to me that many (most?) successful overthrowing of tyrannical governments have been conducted through mostly peaceful means. Where armed insurrection has taken place the result has been a long bloody revolution and in the rare cases it has succeeded the replacement government has many of the same faults as the one it replaced. Don't get me wrong, there have been cases where armed revolution has been successful, but in most cases, it's been average people getting out into the streets and saying enough that has made the big difference. There are not many governments that can continue when the majority of the people are actively protesting against it.
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