> how much of the shot is being extracted after 20 seconds? Basically zero, maybe one or two drops. You need to grind finer though and you need a grinder capab

> how much of the shot is being extracted after 20 seconds? Basically zero, maybe one or two drops. You need to grind finer though and you need a grinder capable of that. A decent hand grinder is ok (e.g. 1zpresso jx pro or max) but for electric grinders you're into the $600+ range before you can do it, e.g. a specialita or a niche .