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I was curious about these competing claims, so I googled for the answer. https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3173378/11-billion-in-additional

I was curious about these competing claims, so I googled for the answer. https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3173378/11-billion-in-additional-security-assistance-for-ukraine/ https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/317337... Dated Sept. 28, 2022 "In total, the United States has now committed approximately $16.9 billion in security assistance to Ukraine since January 2021. Since 2014, the United States has committed approximately $19 billion in security assistance to Ukraine more than $16.2 billion since the beginning of Russia’s unprovoked and brutal invasion on February 24." I'm not sure that all of the money/material has yet reached Ukraine. But that is what is said to be committed.

nosuchthing 4y ago
Most of the weapons given to Ukraine have been lost and unaccounted for. CBS published this report on the missing weapons stolen by corrupt groups operating within Ukraine. Shortly afterwards they were forced to amend a statement that someone is trying to track the newer shipments, without explaining any sort of actual plan for accountability. War is racketeering. https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZWzxbS8eUKc https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZWzxbS8eUKc
- _kbh_ 4y ago
  This story was retracted by CBS because it turned out to be hugely misleading and is no where near the truth about the situation today. Trying to pass it off as such is at best misleading and at worst actively malicious. But even going down that path of thinking, it’s amazing Ukraine has decimated the Russian armed forces with only a fraction of the weapons they were supplied with!. /s.
  - nosuchthing 4y ago
    The story was not retracted by CBS, they only removed a quote. You seem motivated to hide corruption lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_mafia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_mafia
    - _kbh_ 4y ago
      I’m motivated to refute Russian propaganda. Something you seem motivated to spread. The quote was the only part that talked any solid numbers about aid to Ukraine, so how can you even make and analysis. You also never mentioned the quote is from the very start of the war and how the situation of supplies is very different now.
      - nosuchthing 4y ago
        CBS is America, not Russian? The history of Ukrainian political corruption predates the war from Russia. Russia is a corrupt aggressor, but that does not mean Ukrainian abuses should be ignored. Zelensky is not allowing Ukrainian citizens the freedom to leave the country for safety. How is it different now?
        qaq 4y ago
        What does limiting who can leave the country during war time have to do with corruption? The narrative of Ukraine loosing most western weapons was started by Russia and then they dropped it since UA advance was clearly showing them to be total BS.
        nosuchthing 4y ago
        Zelensky gets more money the longer the war drags on. If Ukrainians are allowed freedom to exit to safety, then Zelensky and the oligarchs will not reep as much donations. Interpol chief is Russian?? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapons-end-up-criminal-hands-says-interpol-chief-jurgen-stock https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapon... lol you have no idea what you’re talking about.
        qaq 4y ago
        You obviously do. Yes Ukraine should just surrender and no you are not spreading Russia propaganda
        4y ago
qaq 4y ago
Also important to remember a portion of funds is being allocated to "trade up" soviet equipment in NATO countries to modern US variants. E.g. US gives modern US tanks to say Poland and Poland gives soviet tanks to Ukraine. Also some equipment has limited shelf life so if not used it would have being replaced in the next few years anyway.

nosuchthing 4y ago

Most of the weapons given to Ukraine have been lost and unaccounted for. CBS published this report on the missing weapons stolen by corrupt groups operating within Ukraine. Shortly afterwards they were forced to amend a statement that someone is trying to track the newer shipments, without explaining any sort of actual plan for accountability. War is racketeering. https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZWzxbS8eUKc https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZWzxbS8eUKc

_kbh_ 4y ago
This story was retracted by CBS because it turned out to be hugely misleading and is no where near the truth about the situation today. Trying to pass it off as such is at best misleading and at worst actively malicious. But even going down that path of thinking, it’s amazing Ukraine has decimated the Russian armed forces with only a fraction of the weapons they were supplied with!. /s.
- nosuchthing 4y ago
  The story was not retracted by CBS, they only removed a quote. You seem motivated to hide corruption lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_mafia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_mafia
  - _kbh_ 4y ago
    I’m motivated to refute Russian propaganda. Something you seem motivated to spread. The quote was the only part that talked any solid numbers about aid to Ukraine, so how can you even make and analysis. You also never mentioned the quote is from the very start of the war and how the situation of supplies is very different now.
    - nosuchthing 4y ago
      CBS is America, not Russian? The history of Ukrainian political corruption predates the war from Russia. Russia is a corrupt aggressor, but that does not mean Ukrainian abuses should be ignored. Zelensky is not allowing Ukrainian citizens the freedom to leave the country for safety. How is it different now?
      - qaq 4y ago
        What does limiting who can leave the country during war time have to do with corruption? The narrative of Ukraine loosing most western weapons was started by Russia and then they dropped it since UA advance was clearly showing them to be total BS.
        nosuchthing 4y ago
        Zelensky gets more money the longer the war drags on. If Ukrainians are allowed freedom to exit to safety, then Zelensky and the oligarchs will not reep as much donations. Interpol chief is Russian?? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapons-end-up-criminal-hands-says-interpol-chief-jurgen-stock https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapon... lol you have no idea what you’re talking about.
        qaq 4y ago
        You obviously do. Yes Ukraine should just surrender and no you are not spreading Russia propaganda
        4y ago

qaq 4y ago

Also important to remember a portion of funds is being allocated to "trade up" soviet equipment in NATO countries to modern US variants. E.g. US gives modern US tanks to say Poland and Poland gives soviet tanks to Ukraine. Also some equipment has limited shelf life so if not used it would have being replaced in the next few years anyway.