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First they came for the facebook posts, I did not speak out because I didn't use facebook. Then they came for the internet registrars, I did not speak out beca
by thrown_22 4y ago
First they came for the facebook posts, I did not speak out because I didn't use facebook.
Then they came for the internet registrars, I did not speak out because I didn't have a website.
Then they came for the payment processors, I did not speak out because I didn't have an online business.
When they came for my bank account there was no where left to speak.
- jonathankoren 4y agoJust to be clear. The “They” coming for the Facebook posts is Mark Zuckerberg, owner of Facebook. Give me your car. I want to key some stuff into the side of it. If you don’t you’re censoring me.
- MikePlacid 4y agoFacebook operates in California. It’s users are - by Facebook provided user agreement- bound in their relationship with Facebook by California laws. Now, the constitution of California provides positive right of speech to it’s citizens: Every person may freely speak, write and publish his or her sentiments on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of this right. See this dot here? no exception for Zuckerbergs. Or your car. Then, there is courts’ interpretation of this right. It was as following (by memory): if you created a public forum, then you can’t remove people from it for their speech contents only . That’s why California malls can’t remove beggars soliciting money (you car is ok, it’s not a public forum). Now, as in now, California becomes a one-party state (feels like home, sometimes). The same Supreme Court (but with nowadays judges) decides: is Facebook a public forum? You can guess the answer.
- jonathankoren 4y agoSo you agree. I can carve a message into the side your car, and there’s nothing you can do about it. Nice. I’ve got my knife. Let’s meet up! Afterwards, we’ll swing by the television station and make them broadcast us live, free of charge or control, a six hour lecture about our novel interpretation constitutional law.
- thrown_22 4y agoHow do you fit 4 billion people in your car?
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- jonathankoren 4y agoI don’t. I censor them.
- thrown_22 4y agoThat must be a very big car to have enough space for 4 billion people to write whatever they want on it.
- jonathankoren 4y agoThey don’t. I censor them
- thrown_22 4y agoYeah but you'd need to have enough space for them to write if they want to. Otherwise you'd be making an argument in bad faith.
- jonathankoren 4y agoThey can write small. Also, since you seem to be new I'll let you know. This isn't bad faith. It's reductio ad absurdum.
- thrown_22 4y agoSo your argument on why facebook with 4 billion users should ban whatever it likes on its platform is that a car that can fit more a dozen people shouldn't be vandalized. Yes, I can see why your argument is absurd.