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It's the battlefield of the present. We're smack dab in the middle of the third world war right now and most people don't even realize it.
by pohl 4y ago
It's the battlefield of the present. We're smack dab in the middle of the third world war right now and most people don't even realize it.
- xerxesaa 4y agoCan you elaborate?
- probably_a_gpt 4y agoEverything from Cambridge analytica to TikTok
- colordrops 4y agoUnless there is hot war with mass death, it's not "world war", despite fantasies to the contrary. It's game theory and diplomacy and sanctions and propaganda and other psychological operations.
- probably_a_gpt 4y agoThey did say you don’t realize.
- colordrops 4y agoThere's no world wide hot war that most people are unaware of.
- TuringNYC 4y agoSome wars are fought with pens and scripts.
- colordrops 4y agoNot worthy of being called WWIII
- type0 4y agoRussians call it War War Z, and the same tactics: with enormous number of soldiers they are trying to bring to Ukraine now.
- colordrops 4y agoThere have been dozens of wars on a single front since WWII. This is not WWIII. Why is everyone so insistent on calling it WWIII?
- Delk 4y agoIt'd be WWIV by the same logic anyway. After 9/11, people similarly said we were in a WWIII.
- concinds 4y agoCouldn't be further from the truth. War today is fought with currency devaluations (currency wars), financial warfare, cyberwarfare, psychological warfare (propaganda, see the Western media reports on the well-funded Ukrainan and Russian propaganda operations), and more. Most people see war as purely kinetic war, i.e. bombs, but that is far too expensive politically and in terms of lives, and has become a small percentage of wars fought. Governments today are explicitly endorsing what I'm saying above. The U.S. Los Alamos lab has been wargaming financial warfare for decades, for example.
- thedorkknight 4y agoYes, that's a/the Cold War. I don't think anyone would deny that the Cold War is continuing, it's just that no one has ever called it WW III, since the terms "WW I" & "WW II" have always explicitly referred to hot wars
- colordrops 4y agoThat's why I said "hot" war. Countries have "fought" each other using various non-kinetic means for millennia. We are not in WWIII.
- concinds 4y agoOops, I did miss that word. I agree with you then, we're indeed only in WW3 in a colloquial sense, not in any real sense.
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- otikik 4y agoIt’s an economic war. People die, it’s just that they die of other reasons instead of bullets, and the military isn’t involved much. It’s much more cost effective to spend some money in helping an incompetent populist become president of a country than it is to invade said country. If you play your cards right, he’ll polarize the civilians so much that they will attack each other (Brazil has an election this week, let’s see how that goes) It’s also a class war. When your infant mortality rate is increasing but your “too big to fail” companies are getting billions in bailouts, that is an act of war from the rich. It’s just undercover.
- colordrops 4y agoThere's nothing wrong with anything you are saying but it still doesn't make it WWIII. The tactics you describe have been continuously used for centuries.
- otikik 4y agoThat is debatable. Colonialism has been done for millennia, although Europeans "mainstreamed" it in the 18th century. Neocolonialism (where you don't physically invade a country by using the military, but economic means like forcing them to agree to disadvantageous deals) is a more recent development. This video goes into more detail about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Ax-psPZ1g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Ax-psPZ1g The difference in compensation for supervisory and non-supervisory workers (related with their productivity) is huge today, but it was not that big in the 1970s. That is a recent event. https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/25/race-shareholder-profits-has-left-workers-dust-according-new-research/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/25/race-sha...
- RHSman2 4y agoThe present is the only thing we ever have. And I agree, which ever way you look at it, it’s a battle for supremacy