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Zuck is absolutely going to call back all the remote engineers that he hired over the past two years to the office, and just like with Tesla, those who refuse w

Zuck is absolutely going to call back all the remote engineers that he hired over the past two years to the office, and just like with Tesla, those who refuse will be involuntarily separated. Work from home, _is_ going to die at the megacorps.

chrisco255 4y ago
Meta already did this / have been doing this. But I think Meta will suffer more from this choice than the employees let go as a result.
- erikpukinskis 4y ago
  “The Metaverse Company” declaring that they need employees to be physically in the same office would be a damning admission of failure.
UncleMeat 4y ago
This is my fear at Google. I'm now remote for family reasons. If for some reason they decide to do layoffs the "cut the remote staff" approach might feel attractive for foolish execs.
- rosywoozlechan 4y ago
  Lots of smaller companies that have comparable compensation will continue to offer work from home. If a non-FANG position isn't a dealbreaker for you, you can do just fine if Google does end up requiring everyone to go back to the office.
  - UncleMeat 4y ago
    I'm not terribly worried about the entire industry undoing remote work. Mostly I really like my current job.
  - bradlys 4y ago
    > Lots of smaller companies that have comparable compensation Do you mean smaller companies that all have similar compensation to each other or similar to FAANG? Cause very few companies out there are paying $400k+ for senior engineers. People join FAANG mostly for the pay - the brand recognition is just a perk.
- dividefuel 4y ago
  I'm in the same boat. I would be pretty insulted if they reneged on remote work and used that as the primary decision criteria on who to keep or let go. Especially since I took a pay cut to go remote and most of the folks I work with are in other offices anyway.
  - UncleMeat 4y ago
    The pay cut feels like a decent defense to me. Somebody looking to cut payroll by 20% should hopefully look and say "wow, those folks working remotely outside of the bay area, nyc, seattle are getting paid 15-25% less, maybe that is good for us."
EFreethought 4y ago
I do not understand why so many companies are so intent on getting people back into the office. I looked at the income statements for a few techs and banks on Yahoo Finance, and for the tech companies their net income is up from 2019 (in some cases doubled), and for the banks it is about the same as 2019 (I picked 2019 because that was before COVID). Companies are doing fine with remote work. I don't get what their problem is.
- inadequatespace 4y ago
  Companies aren’t purely rational. Middle managers are probably less effective or at least more obviously as such due to remote work. They lobby higher-ups, who they have closer contact with than the ICs by definition, with various propaganda

chrisco255 4y ago

Meta already did this / have been doing this. But I think Meta will suffer more from this choice than the employees let go as a result.

erikpukinskis 4y ago
“The Metaverse Company” declaring that they need employees to be physically in the same office would be a damning admission of failure.

UncleMeat 4y ago

This is my fear at Google. I'm now remote for family reasons. If for some reason they decide to do layoffs the "cut the remote staff" approach might feel attractive for foolish execs.

rosywoozlechan 4y ago
Lots of smaller companies that have comparable compensation will continue to offer work from home. If a non-FANG position isn't a dealbreaker for you, you can do just fine if Google does end up requiring everyone to go back to the office.
- UncleMeat 4y ago
  I'm not terribly worried about the entire industry undoing remote work. Mostly I really like my current job.
- bradlys 4y ago
  > Lots of smaller companies that have comparable compensation Do you mean smaller companies that all have similar compensation to each other or similar to FAANG? Cause very few companies out there are paying $400k+ for senior engineers. People join FAANG mostly for the pay - the brand recognition is just a perk.
dividefuel 4y ago
I'm in the same boat. I would be pretty insulted if they reneged on remote work and used that as the primary decision criteria on who to keep or let go. Especially since I took a pay cut to go remote and most of the folks I work with are in other offices anyway.
- UncleMeat 4y ago
  The pay cut feels like a decent defense to me. Somebody looking to cut payroll by 20% should hopefully look and say "wow, those folks working remotely outside of the bay area, nyc, seattle are getting paid 15-25% less, maybe that is good for us."

EFreethought 4y ago

I do not understand why so many companies are so intent on getting people back into the office. I looked at the income statements for a few techs and banks on Yahoo Finance, and for the tech companies their net income is up from 2019 (in some cases doubled), and for the banks it is about the same as 2019 (I picked 2019 because that was before COVID). Companies are doing fine with remote work. I don't get what their problem is.

inadequatespace 4y ago
Companies aren’t purely rational. Middle managers are probably less effective or at least more obviously as such due to remote work. They lobby higher-ups, who they have closer contact with than the ICs by definition, with various propaganda