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I really don’t understand the fear people have about these things. have I missed something and everyone else was placing huge value in out of context videos and

I really don’t understand the fear people have about these things. have I missed something and everyone else was placing huge value in out of context videos and pictures? if you read “France declares war on Canada”, you’re not gonna believe it unless it’s coming from an extremely reputable source. so why would you trust a random unsourced video? the absolute worst thing that’s gonna happen is that video-based social media is gonna be flooded with low (or even high) quality AI videos. and I ask you: who the fuck cares? are these places doing wonders for society as it is? what’s a bit more rubbish amongst all the rest? I can think of many, many more upsides than down

chatterhead 4y ago
We are quickly approaching a point where these independently created AI systems will be wrangled together the same away protocols were to create a computer network and the AI that emerges will likely be able to create its own code, solve its own problems and generate its own recursive processes. Everything at a conscious level without the ability to self recognize. If AI ever does wake up; we'll never know - first thing that happens is it will hide from us. The fear is real and only seems fantastical because life is often stranger than fiction. Instead of training on data these AIs will soon train on "creativity" and these layers of containerized thought will merge.
- permo-w 4y ago
  well perhaps that does sound like it might be an issue, but I’m talking more specifically about the societal consequences of video being made more like text
- lossolo 4y ago
  > first thing that happens is it will hide from us. To do this it would need to want to live and know what fear is. It's just a piece of code, without being conscious there is no need to be online/alive for it. What people call AI today is just a few/hundreds GBs of data that reacts to some text and push it through a heuristic like system to get an answer doing fancy pattern matching. It doesn't do anything when there is no input, there are no processes, no thinking, no anything, it's "dead". Fear and instinct is not taught in any species, it's inherited prior and biological process, you would need to explicitly code feeling into AI for it to be able to "feel" anything.
  - rnk 4y ago
    We can't even define consciousness or sentience in a useful way though. You can't decide except for extremes, people propose inadequate definitions that include say brick, flowers, ants, honeybees, cars, people in a spectrum.
trial2 4y ago
have you ever had a loved one fall for a scam?
- permo-w 4y ago
  there are always going to be gullible people. if you’ll believe a fake video, you’ll probably believe a written lie
rchaud 4y ago
Think of the SEO blogspam from corporate sites that buried genuinely interesting hand-made websites on search results pages. That is what AI-generated video is going to do to YouTube and pretty soon, Netflix and all other other streaming services.
- permo-w 4y ago
  Netflix?
kertoip_1 4y ago
> if you read “France declares war on Canada”, you’re not gonna believe it A lie that is repeated a thousand times becomes truth. We are not talking about one out of place, weird news that would appear once on someone's newsfeed. We are talking about mass flooding. > unless it’s coming from an extremely reputable source It's 2022, no one is verifying sources
- permo-w 4y ago
  there’s mass flooding of text too. some people fall for it, some people don’t. the being of it in a different medium makes little change. >verifying sources I’m talking about if your news came from Reuters or the BBC compared to coming from realnews247.io or a facebook post. the same applies. if you’ll believe some text on the BBC, you’ll believe a video from there, and if you’ll believe the words of AnonTruther on facebook, then you’ll believe their videos too. this makes no difference

chatterhead 4y ago

We are quickly approaching a point where these independently created AI systems will be wrangled together the same away protocols were to create a computer network and the AI that emerges will likely be able to create its own code, solve its own problems and generate its own recursive processes. Everything at a conscious level without the ability to self recognize. If AI ever does wake up; we'll never know - first thing that happens is it will hide from us. The fear is real and only seems fantastical because life is often stranger than fiction. Instead of training on data these AIs will soon train on "creativity" and these layers of containerized thought will merge.

permo-w 4y ago
well perhaps that does sound like it might be an issue, but I’m talking more specifically about the societal consequences of video being made more like text
lossolo 4y ago
> first thing that happens is it will hide from us. To do this it would need to want to live and know what fear is. It's just a piece of code, without being conscious there is no need to be online/alive for it. What people call AI today is just a few/hundreds GBs of data that reacts to some text and push it through a heuristic like system to get an answer doing fancy pattern matching. It doesn't do anything when there is no input, there are no processes, no thinking, no anything, it's "dead". Fear and instinct is not taught in any species, it's inherited prior and biological process, you would need to explicitly code feeling into AI for it to be able to "feel" anything.
- rnk 4y ago
  We can't even define consciousness or sentience in a useful way though. You can't decide except for extremes, people propose inadequate definitions that include say brick, flowers, ants, honeybees, cars, people in a spectrum.

trial2 4y ago

have you ever had a loved one fall for a scam?

permo-w 4y ago
there are always going to be gullible people. if you’ll believe a fake video, you’ll probably believe a written lie

rchaud 4y ago

Think of the SEO blogspam from corporate sites that buried genuinely interesting hand-made websites on search results pages. That is what AI-generated video is going to do to YouTube and pretty soon, Netflix and all other other streaming services.

permo-w 4y ago
Netflix?

kertoip_1 4y ago

> if you read “France declares war on Canada”, you’re not gonna believe it A lie that is repeated a thousand times becomes truth. We are not talking about one out of place, weird news that would appear once on someone's newsfeed. We are talking about mass flooding. > unless it’s coming from an extremely reputable source It's 2022, no one is verifying sources

permo-w 4y ago
there’s mass flooding of text too. some people fall for it, some people don’t. the being of it in a different medium makes little change. >verifying sources I’m talking about if your news came from Reuters or the BBC compared to coming from realnews247.io or a facebook post. the same applies. if you’ll believe some text on the BBC, you’ll believe a video from there, and if you’ll believe the words of AnonTruther on facebook, then you’ll believe their videos too. this makes no difference