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Direct from the horse's mouth: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33022775 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33022775

jjulius 4y ago
Also from the horse's mouth: https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656 https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656 Not saying it to argue with your point, just to highlight that we generally shouldn't put much trust into Google.
- neogodless 4y ago
  But this is from 60 days ago, and Google has now announced they are shutting Stadia down. While "cover your ass" posts may need a grain of salt, there's no logic in "we're killing a product/service" being lip service.
  - falcolas 4y ago
    These decisions are not made over the course of days or a couple of months. They're made quarters or years in advance.
    - lijogdfljk 4y ago
      So.. what's your point? Are you saying that Google saying they're not shutting down 60 days ago was wrong? Or that the current post is wrong? Or that neither should be trusted? Or..?
      - falcolas 4y ago
        That PR statements are lies and not to be trusted. Trust what they do, not what they say they're going to do. And not just Google, but every company.
        lijogdfljk 4y ago
        I agree, just not sure what your comment meant in regards to that. Ie the decision is made by quarters, yea, what does that have to do with the parent comment?
    - neogodless 4y ago
      I'm not sure what your point is. I'm not arguing that internally, no one at Google knew this 60 days ago. They may have. I'm saying that it makes sense to cast doubt on public relation statements that cast a company in a good light, but it makes much less sense to doubt an announcement that casts them in a bad light. Why would they "lie" about killing a product or service?
      - jjulius 4y ago
        >... it makes much less sense to doubt an announcement that casts them in a bad light. Why would they "lie" about killing a product or service? If you are suggesting that I'm saying that we shouldn't trust Google's announcement that they are shutting down Stadia, then you are misunderstanding my comment.
        neogodless 4y ago
        You replied to a post saying "this is news direct from Google" with the comment > to highlight that we generally shouldn't put much trust into Google It seemed like a logical conclusion. Given your argument now, I assume you simply meant "don't trust anything they say" (which would include their announcement today) but it's not exactly the spirit of what you mean. Your initial intent was not clear (in my opinion.)
        jjulius 4y ago
        Just a general, friendly reminder to take whatever comes out of Google's mouth with a gigantic grain of salt, circumstantially. In this circumstance, I would trust that they are shutting it down.
      - falcolas 4y ago
        I'm saying that their statement 60 days ago was a lie. A lie that leadership knew was a lie, yet they let the PR statement be generated and broadcasted regardless. Google will have financially benefited from that positive PR (from interest on invested money, if in absolutely no other way).

jjulius 4y ago

Also from the horse's mouth: https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656 https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656 Not saying it to argue with your point, just to highlight that we generally shouldn't put much trust into Google.

neogodless 4y ago
But this is from 60 days ago, and Google has now announced they are shutting Stadia down. While "cover your ass" posts may need a grain of salt, there's no logic in "we're killing a product/service" being lip service.
- falcolas 4y ago
  These decisions are not made over the course of days or a couple of months. They're made quarters or years in advance.
  - lijogdfljk 4y ago
    So.. what's your point? Are you saying that Google saying they're not shutting down 60 days ago was wrong? Or that the current post is wrong? Or that neither should be trusted? Or..?
    - falcolas 4y ago
      That PR statements are lies and not to be trusted. Trust what they do, not what they say they're going to do. And not just Google, but every company.
      - lijogdfljk 4y ago
        I agree, just not sure what your comment meant in regards to that. Ie the decision is made by quarters, yea, what does that have to do with the parent comment?
  - neogodless 4y ago
    I'm not sure what your point is. I'm not arguing that internally, no one at Google knew this 60 days ago. They may have. I'm saying that it makes sense to cast doubt on public relation statements that cast a company in a good light, but it makes much less sense to doubt an announcement that casts them in a bad light. Why would they "lie" about killing a product or service?
    - jjulius 4y ago
      >... it makes much less sense to doubt an announcement that casts them in a bad light. Why would they "lie" about killing a product or service? If you are suggesting that I'm saying that we shouldn't trust Google's announcement that they are shutting down Stadia, then you are misunderstanding my comment.
      - neogodless 4y ago
        You replied to a post saying "this is news direct from Google" with the comment > to highlight that we generally shouldn't put much trust into Google It seemed like a logical conclusion. Given your argument now, I assume you simply meant "don't trust anything they say" (which would include their announcement today) but it's not exactly the spirit of what you mean. Your initial intent was not clear (in my opinion.)
        jjulius 4y ago
        Just a general, friendly reminder to take whatever comes out of Google's mouth with a gigantic grain of salt, circumstantially. In this circumstance, I would trust that they are shutting it down.
    - falcolas 4y ago
      I'm saying that their statement 60 days ago was a lie. A lie that leadership knew was a lie, yet they let the PR statement be generated and broadcasted regardless. Google will have financially benefited from that positive PR (from interest on invested money, if in absolutely no other way).