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A message about Stadia and our long term streaming strategy

352 points by vyrotek 4y ago

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Comments moved to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33022768 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33022768, which was posted slightly earlier and also isn't a corporate press release - we generally prefer third-party articles to the latter. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=corporate%20press%20release%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
- wsgeorge 4y ago
  > we generally prefer third-party articles to the latter. Why do you? I've noticed several times when a journalistic article was discussing a scientific paper, the preference from some community members was to link to the paper itself. Shouldn't there be a similar preference for a first-party source such as this? I found both links on an HN reddit bot, and read the press release first - to learn what the Stadia team had to say - before coming to HN to see what the community had to say about what the folks at Stadia announced. Why are you giving preference to a 3rd party article in this case?
  - dang 4y ago
    By "the latter" I meant corporate press releases. The link explains why (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=corporate%20press%20release%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...). The best third party articles tend to quote the salient bits from the press release as well as adding additional background and dropping the most embarrassing spin.
    - paledot 4y ago
      I appreciate this very much. When a press release does make it to the front page (often from the SEC or another US government agency), I click straight through to the HN comments to get some context and perspective.
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jd24 4y ago
That's a shame, I played a few games on Stadia and thought it worked great.
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CM30 4y ago
Google's tendency to do this is why I will never pay Google for any of their services, nor jump onboard any that don't already have widespread adoption. I knew Stadia wouldn't last, and I knew it'd be a better choice to stick with companies that actually have some experience in the games industry instead. So good job guys. You proved that yet again, Google will kill off a new service/product before it ever has the chance to get good, and validated everyone's fears about the same.
legitster 4y ago
I never so much as a saw a single advertisement or retail display for Stadia in the two years since it launched. Microsoft lost A BILLION dollars a year for 4 YEARS before they ever turned a profit on Xbox. You cannot "Lean Startup" your way into a consumer platform.
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mmanfrin 4y ago
It's easy to say this now that they've shitcanned it, but this product was doomed from the start. They simply did not have a market. The people who care enough to play AAA games are the kind of people who already have PCs or consoles, and the notion of paying a subscription fee on top of the actual cost of games is astoundingly stupid. You buy a game and decide to stop paying and suddenly you can no longer play that game (at least in the fidelity you originally played it). It's such a non starter and I've been saying it for years. For having so many smart people working for them, Google sure makes some absolutely braindead decisions. They lost hundreds of millions if not billions thanks to their own hubris.

352 points by vyrotek 4y ago

dang 4y ago

Comments moved to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33022768 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33022768, which was posted slightly earlier and also isn't a corporate press release - we generally prefer third-party articles to the latter. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=corporate%20press%20release%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

wsgeorge 4y ago
> we generally prefer third-party articles to the latter. Why do you? I've noticed several times when a journalistic article was discussing a scientific paper, the preference from some community members was to link to the paper itself. Shouldn't there be a similar preference for a first-party source such as this? I found both links on an HN reddit bot, and read the press release first - to learn what the Stadia team had to say - before coming to HN to see what the community had to say about what the folks at Stadia announced. Why are you giving preference to a 3rd party article in this case?
- dang 4y ago
  By "the latter" I meant corporate press releases. The link explains why (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=corporate%20press%20release%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...). The best third party articles tend to quote the salient bits from the press release as well as adding additional background and dropping the most embarrassing spin.
  - paledot 4y ago
    I appreciate this very much. When a press release does make it to the front page (often from the SEC or another US government agency), I click straight through to the HN comments to get some context and perspective.

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jd24 4y ago

That's a shame, I played a few games on Stadia and thought it worked great.

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CM30 4y ago

Google's tendency to do this is why I will never pay Google for any of their services, nor jump onboard any that don't already have widespread adoption. I knew Stadia wouldn't last, and I knew it'd be a better choice to stick with companies that actually have some experience in the games industry instead. So good job guys. You proved that yet again, Google will kill off a new service/product before it ever has the chance to get good, and validated everyone's fears about the same.

legitster 4y ago

I never so much as a saw a single advertisement or retail display for Stadia in the two years since it launched. Microsoft lost A BILLION dollars a year for 4 YEARS before they ever turned a profit on Xbox. You cannot "Lean Startup" your way into a consumer platform.

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mmanfrin 4y ago

It's easy to say this now that they've shitcanned it, but this product was doomed from the start. They simply did not have a market. The people who care enough to play AAA games are the kind of people who already have PCs or consoles, and the notion of paying a subscription fee on top of the actual cost of games is astoundingly stupid. You buy a game and decide to stop paying and suddenly you can no longer play that game (at least in the fidelity you originally played it). It's such a non starter and I've been saying it for years. For having so many smart people working for them, Google sure makes some absolutely braindead decisions. They lost hundreds of millions if not billions thanks to their own hubris.