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A french court banning it will probably be a (short) precursor to an EU-wide ban which is effectively a worldwide ban. EU courts will be fining companies heavil

A french court banning it will probably be a (short) precursor to an EU-wide ban which is effectively a worldwide ban. EU courts will be fining companies heavily if they don't comply which effectively means big tech no longer invests a penny in models. I use 'French court' here mostly because I believe it most likely to be firstly litigated there.

CalRobert 4y ago
I imagine plenty of companies in the rest of the world will happily make use of it.
- trention 4y ago
  Spoiler alert: EU can fine and (if needed) seize assets of companies based outside of the EU.
  - ronsor 4y ago
    Only if those companies have EU assets* Even still, if the EU chooses to regress, I can imagine a lot of non-EU-based companies—especially smaller ones—just choosing not to deal with them anymore
    - trention 4y ago
      EU can pretty much unilaterally cut access to the financial system of said companies, demonstrated this year to a number of russian entities. Meanwhile, given what Xi has done in the last couple of years, I would not be surprised if China moves against the model makers first.
rnk 4y ago
Yeah, just like Facebook and Google can't operate in Europe, or the US isn't still spying on the whole world still. Those eu courts really control them.
- trention 4y ago
  EU courts fined google just this week. Way to prove exactly how uninformed you are. There has been no reason to ban meta or google in EU so far, but you can ask RT how good their operations are at the moment.
  - astrange 4y ago
    EU wouldn’t ban homegrown technology. They’re making up laws an an excuse to punish Google for not being EU based, it’s not that Google happens to be violating the law.
    - rnk 4y ago
      The EU has had many sanctions against google, tried to force them to change various practices, just like the pointless attempts to get microsoft to make changes. None of them made any real difference.
    - trention 4y ago
      >EU wouldn’t ban homegrown technology. EU would ban any technology that disrupts the labor market to an extent it leads to widespread protests among a segment of society. For how a somehow similar thing has played out in the last 40 years (instead of banning technologies, it has mostly been instituting quotas, paying subsidies and banning/taxing imports), you can look at its agricultural policy.

CalRobert 4y ago

I imagine plenty of companies in the rest of the world will happily make use of it.

trention 4y ago
Spoiler alert: EU can fine and (if needed) seize assets of companies based outside of the EU.
- ronsor 4y ago
  Only if those companies have EU assets* Even still, if the EU chooses to regress, I can imagine a lot of non-EU-based companies—especially smaller ones—just choosing not to deal with them anymore
  - trention 4y ago
    EU can pretty much unilaterally cut access to the financial system of said companies, demonstrated this year to a number of russian entities. Meanwhile, given what Xi has done in the last couple of years, I would not be surprised if China moves against the model makers first.

rnk 4y ago

Yeah, just like Facebook and Google can't operate in Europe, or the US isn't still spying on the whole world still. Those eu courts really control them.

trention 4y ago
EU courts fined google just this week. Way to prove exactly how uninformed you are. There has been no reason to ban meta or google in EU so far, but you can ask RT how good their operations are at the moment.
- astrange 4y ago
  EU wouldn’t ban homegrown technology. They’re making up laws an an excuse to punish Google for not being EU based, it’s not that Google happens to be violating the law.
  - rnk 4y ago
    The EU has had many sanctions against google, tried to force them to change various practices, just like the pointless attempts to get microsoft to make changes. None of them made any real difference.
  - trention 4y ago
    >EU wouldn’t ban homegrown technology. EU would ban any technology that disrupts the labor market to an extent it leads to widespread protests among a segment of society. For how a somehow similar thing has played out in the last 40 years (instead of banning technologies, it has mostly been instituting quotas, paying subsidies and banning/taxing imports), you can look at its agricultural policy.