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Don't worry, humans will still be relevant for ~10 years!. (and then regrettably irrelevant thereafter). I think it is a legitimate worry, as the pace of prog
by dotsam 4y ago
Don't worry, humans will still be relevant for ~10 years!.
(and then regrettably irrelevant thereafter).
I think it is a legitimate worry, as the pace of progress is considerable. These tools are impressive, and are only going to get more impressive: more people should be talking about where this is headed.
- trention 4y agoThese models are literally one French court decision away from being banned and investment in them being completely halted. So I wouldn't worry too much about them specifically.
- ronsor 4y agoWhy French court? If other countries don't ban them, France will just be hurting itself.
- trention 4y agoA french court banning it will probably be a (short) precursor to an EU-wide ban which is effectively a worldwide ban. EU courts will be fining companies heavily if they don't comply which effectively means big tech no longer invests a penny in models. I use 'French court' here mostly because I believe it most likely to be firstly litigated there.
- CalRobert 4y agoI imagine plenty of companies in the rest of the world will happily make use of it.
- trention 4y agoSpoiler alert: EU can fine and (if needed) seize assets of companies based outside of the EU.
- ronsor 4y agoOnly if those companies have EU assets* Even still, if the EU chooses to regress, I can imagine a lot of non-EU-based companies—especially smaller ones—just choosing not to deal with them anymore
- trention 4y agoEU can pretty much unilaterally cut access to the financial system of said companies, demonstrated this year to a number of russian entities. Meanwhile, given what Xi has done in the last couple of years, I would not be surprised if China moves against the model makers first.
- rnk 4y agoYeah, just like Facebook and Google can't operate in Europe, or the US isn't still spying on the whole world still. Those eu courts really control them.
- trention 4y agoEU courts fined google just this week. Way to prove exactly how uninformed you are. There has been no reason to ban meta or google in EU so far, but you can ask RT how good their operations are at the moment.
- astrange 4y agoEU wouldn’t ban homegrown technology. They’re making up laws an an excuse to punish Google for not being EU based, it’s not that Google happens to be violating the law.
- rnk 4y agoThe EU has had many sanctions against google, tried to force them to change various practices, just like the pointless attempts to get microsoft to make changes. None of them made any real difference.
- trention 4y ago>EU wouldn’t ban homegrown technology. EU would ban any technology that disrupts the labor market to an extent it leads to widespread protests among a segment of society. For how a somehow similar thing has played out in the last 40 years (instead of banning technologies, it has mostly been instituting quotas, paying subsidies and banning/taxing imports), you can look at its agricultural policy.
- tehsauce 4y agoI think the opposite is true. I think we're closer to the beginning of a kind of arms race.
- zepolen 4y agoYes because banning alcohol, drugs, porn, prostitution and profanity in music sure got rid of them!
- trention 4y agoIt would have gotten rid of every single one of those if the only method for their production required a tech company to invest a 8-digit sum in R&D and said tech company was threatened with litigation.
- Nevermark 4y agoPorn companies, Facebook, Uber, ... these are just the latest companies, in a long line, for whom huge lawsuits and fortune-sized settlements are simply a line item on the expense sheet.
- trention 4y agoAre you somehow under the impression that, if a government decides to impose a fine that will financially kill the company once and for all, it is incapable of it? Incidentally, Uber has been banned in the entire country where I live for 8+ years now.
- Nevermark 4y agoOf course. And that kind of action would make corporations sit up. But what a government can do, and what its politicians will do are very different things. The political backlash for going nuclear on corporations would be massive and sustained. Not even good acting corporations want that kind of thing happening. Regarding, Uber and your country: your point makes my point stronger. A whole country is now off limits to Uber, but on the whole, across all the countries, their aggressive behaviors has been a win for them anyway. Just another cost of business.
- rnk 4y agoThat is nonsensical. Maybe one country might decide to try to stop it, the internet has shown that doesn't work.