Yeah and when you ask a question to your C++ colleague in that mysterious legacy team, not even on the language, you're convinced they think they're speaking to

Yeah and when you ask a question to your C++ colleague in that mysterious legacy team, not even on the language, you're convinced they think they're speaking to an imbecile. C++ devs seem to live in a bubble of self admiration, spending hours over engineering under-performing applications they never profile - after all, profiling is like debugging: it's for people who cant code :p