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I would like to point out at Gemini, which is an incredible community regarding this. I’ve developed a terminal browser for the web/RSS/gemini/gopher and I’m e

by ploum 4y ago

I would like to point out at Gemini, which is an incredible community regarding this. I’ve developed a terminal browser for the web/RSS/gemini/gopher and I’m everyday astonished how 95% of what I need is best served as simple text in my terminal. It makes me wonder "why do we to invest so much time learning/tweaking CSS/JS when all we want to do is exchanging text and a few pictures ?" https://notabug.org/ploum/offpunk https://notabug.org/ploum/offpunk PS: to be inclusive of gemini/gopher, I prefer the word "smolnet" over "small web". But we understand each other, that’s really a detail.

sodimel 4y ago
I wanted to mention offpunk but I forgot! (edit: done) (I read your posts on your gemlog as well as the french ones on your blog, thank you very much for writing all of these posts)
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0xbadcafebee 4y ago
Gemini and Gopher seem to be quite different from the intention of the small web. One is a retro-computing thing, the other is a mission to focus on people rather than organizations
- tgvaughan 4y ago
  In practice they're not so different . There are plenty of people regularly publishing stuff over gopher that has nothing to do with retro-computing. Gemini also grew out of a gopher community.
sylware 4y ago
Mostly because corpos and web dev tantrums: planned obsolescence and corpo/web dev locking via non-pertinent technical complexity and size of the web engines. This is a scam or toxic dellusions. Those "open source" web engines have grotesque and absurd complexity and size, are written with a computer language (c++) which has a syntax complexity morbidely accute that it requires compilers (even naive ones) not better than the web engines themselves. Hard truth: bazillions of services provided over the net can be provided as noscript/basic (x)html, aka basic html forms. Hard truth: asking nicely usually does not fix that (I tried). Hard truth: the real work in not the web "code", it is protecting it against hackers, like DDOS attacks. Hard truth: Don't fool youself, hackers will be "paid" to push hard those sites on big tech network infrastructure (or are idiots). "Ppl coding computer viruses are probably those who sell anti-virus software".

by ploum 4y ago

sodimel 4y ago

I wanted to mention offpunk but I forgot! (edit: done) (I read your posts on your gemlog as well as the french ones on your blog, thank you very much for writing all of these posts)

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0xbadcafebee 4y ago

Gemini and Gopher seem to be quite different from the intention of the small web. One is a retro-computing thing, the other is a mission to focus on people rather than organizations

tgvaughan 4y ago
In practice they're not so different . There are plenty of people regularly publishing stuff over gopher that has nothing to do with retro-computing. Gemini also grew out of a gopher community.

sylware 4y ago

Mostly because corpos and web dev tantrums: planned obsolescence and corpo/web dev locking via non-pertinent technical complexity and size of the web engines. This is a scam or toxic dellusions. Those "open source" web engines have grotesque and absurd complexity and size, are written with a computer language (c++) which has a syntax complexity morbidely accute that it requires compilers (even naive ones) not better than the web engines themselves. Hard truth: bazillions of services provided over the net can be provided as noscript/basic (x)html, aka basic html forms. Hard truth: asking nicely usually does not fix that (I tried). Hard truth: the real work in not the web "code", it is protecting it against hackers, like DDOS attacks. Hard truth: Don't fool youself, hackers will be "paid" to push hard those sites on big tech network infrastructure (or are idiots). "Ppl coding computer viruses are probably those who sell anti-virus software".