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> And please don't bike across the crosswalk, walk your bike across it. Drivers cannot react fast enough to a bike darting across the road You lost me there. C

by dagurp 4y ago

> And please don't bike across the crosswalk, walk your bike across it. Drivers cannot react fast enough to a bike darting across the road You lost me there. Cyclist feel a lot safer biking across because they can react quicker. I live in a place that went from having very few cyclists to a decent percentage of all commutes. Dealing with car traffic today is so much easier simply because car drivers have gotten used to cyclist and now pay attention. Most american cities are still at the stage where only risk takers cycle.

u801e 4y ago
> Cyclist feel a lot safer biking across Feeling safer doesn't mean actual safety. For example, some cyclists feel safer riding facing traffic, but statistically, that's much more dangerous compared to riding in the same direction as traffic.
- dagurp 4y ago
  It matters when creating infrastructure for bikes though. If you put down a bike lane and nobody uses it, it's likely that the cyclist feel safer riding in the street.
WalterBright 4y ago
I know of two cyclists who died by suddenly darting across the crosswalk. In both cases the driver was exonerated because there was no way he could have reacted in time.
- dagurp 4y ago
  That's very sad to hear. I hope those intersections/crosswalks went through a redesign after this because this shouldn't happen.
  - WalterBright 4y ago
    Don't dart across the road in a bike. For the same reason moms tell their kids not to run across the road. Improving the markings won't help. When I use the crosswalk, I stand expectantly next to it but off the road, and wait until the cars stop. Then I cross. I never run out into the street hoping cars see me in time. Hoping other cars see you in time, especially if you dart in front of them, is just a bad strategy.
    - dagurp 4y ago
      I'm not talking about markings, I'm talking about designing crossings so that pedestrians and cyclist don't have to watch out for turning cars and improving traffic lights so that pedestrians and cyclist don't feel the need to run red lights. Here are two really good videos about this that talk about this: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ByEBjf9ktY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ByEBjf9ktY - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSnSeyG74fw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSnSeyG74fw

by dagurp 4y ago

u801e 4y ago

> Cyclist feel a lot safer biking across Feeling safer doesn't mean actual safety. For example, some cyclists feel safer riding facing traffic, but statistically, that's much more dangerous compared to riding in the same direction as traffic.

dagurp 4y ago
It matters when creating infrastructure for bikes though. If you put down a bike lane and nobody uses it, it's likely that the cyclist feel safer riding in the street.

WalterBright 4y ago

I know of two cyclists who died by suddenly darting across the crosswalk. In both cases the driver was exonerated because there was no way he could have reacted in time.

dagurp 4y ago
That's very sad to hear. I hope those intersections/crosswalks went through a redesign after this because this shouldn't happen.
- WalterBright 4y ago
  Don't dart across the road in a bike. For the same reason moms tell their kids not to run across the road. Improving the markings won't help. When I use the crosswalk, I stand expectantly next to it but off the road, and wait until the cars stop. Then I cross. I never run out into the street hoping cars see me in time. Hoping other cars see you in time, especially if you dart in front of them, is just a bad strategy.
  - dagurp 4y ago
    I'm not talking about markings, I'm talking about designing crossings so that pedestrians and cyclist don't have to watch out for turning cars and improving traffic lights so that pedestrians and cyclist don't feel the need to run red lights. Here are two really good videos about this that talk about this: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ByEBjf9ktY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ByEBjf9ktY - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSnSeyG74fw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSnSeyG74fw