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People like the smart in smart tvs when they just bought it but 6 months in almost nobody uses it because 9 out of 10 times it just stinks. They use a chromecas

People like the smart in smart tvs when they just bought it but 6 months in almost nobody uses it because 9 out of 10 times it just stinks. They use a chromecast, Apple TV or some other set top box.

cgrealy 4y ago
Do you have any evidence of that? Anecdotally, that's not true of people I know (and even less so for people not in tech), but anecdotes are not particularly useful.
Kiro 4y ago
That's obviously not true. I hardly know anyone who uses external devices. I have a Chromecast but never use it after I got a smart TV.
satysin 4y ago
My parents still use all the smart TV features in their 4+ year old LG C8. They don't have any streaming boxes, I tried to give them my old Apple TV a year ago but they didn't like the remote (don't blame them for that, it is garbage). They use Netflix, BBC iPlayer, YouTube and the Disney+ apps daily. No complaints other than when the wifi sometimes goes out but that isn't a fault of the TV.
scarface74 4y ago
I can guarantee you that most people aren’t buying extra devices to watch TV when the apps they use are built in. Most people definitely aren’t buying $150 AppleTV devices. Roku is by far the most popular streaming device and they are aggressive about getting their software included with most low end TVs.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  > I can guarantee you that most people aren’t buying extra devices to watch TV when the apps they use are built in. No shit, the reason you jailbreak a tv is to put apps on it that were not built in (or remove apps that are intrusive.) This is just like saying that people who are happy with things aren't unhappy with things.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    > …but 6 months in almost nobody uses it because 9 out of 10 times it just stinks. They use a chromecast, Apple TV or some other set top box. The parent commenter claimed that “almost nobody uses” the built in smart TV features. This is false outside of whatever tiny bubble they are in.
    - tinus_hn 4y ago
      Set top boxes and chromecasts are selling pretty well so obviously people are using them, but I guess there’s quite some people content with using a mediocre implementation, for as long as the api that’s used is supported by YouTube and Netflix. It probably depends on the kind of crowd you sample.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        Set top boxes if they ever sold well are very much declining in popularity as most TVs have the same OS preinstalled. Roku by itself comes pre-installed on almost 40% of new TVs https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/roku-claims-38-all-smart-tvs-sold-u-s-2020 https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/roku-claims-38-all-smart-t... Manufacturers have just started installing FireTV software. https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/devices/amazon-vp-shares-how-fire-tv-is-reimagining-the-largest-screen-in-your-home https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/devices/amazon-vp-shares-ho... And Google has been in the game for awhile with preinstalled Android.
        tinus_hn 4y ago
        I’m not sure how references that show that smart TVs contain smart software support the claim that set top boxes are declining in popularity.
        scarface74 4y ago
        Are you going to buy a Roku stick if your TV already has built in Roku? Are you going to buy a TV with Amazon FireTV built in and then buy a Roku stick or vice versa?

People like the smart in smart tvs when they just bought it but 6 months in almost nobody uses it because 9 out of 10 times it just stinks. They use a chromecast, Apple TV or some other set top box.

cgrealy 4y ago

Do you have any evidence of that? Anecdotally, that's not true of people I know (and even less so for people not in tech), but anecdotes are not particularly useful.

Kiro 4y ago

That's obviously not true. I hardly know anyone who uses external devices. I have a Chromecast but never use it after I got a smart TV.

satysin 4y ago

My parents still use all the smart TV features in their 4+ year old LG C8. They don't have any streaming boxes, I tried to give them my old Apple TV a year ago but they didn't like the remote (don't blame them for that, it is garbage). They use Netflix, BBC iPlayer, YouTube and the Disney+ apps daily. No complaints other than when the wifi sometimes goes out but that isn't a fault of the TV.

scarface74 4y ago

I can guarantee you that most people aren’t buying extra devices to watch TV when the apps they use are built in. Most people definitely aren’t buying $150 AppleTV devices. Roku is by far the most popular streaming device and they are aggressive about getting their software included with most low end TVs.

pessimizer 4y ago
> I can guarantee you that most people aren’t buying extra devices to watch TV when the apps they use are built in. No shit, the reason you jailbreak a tv is to put apps on it that were not built in (or remove apps that are intrusive.) This is just like saying that people who are happy with things aren't unhappy with things.
- scarface74 4y ago
  > …but 6 months in almost nobody uses it because 9 out of 10 times it just stinks. They use a chromecast, Apple TV or some other set top box. The parent commenter claimed that “almost nobody uses” the built in smart TV features. This is false outside of whatever tiny bubble they are in.
  - tinus_hn 4y ago
    Set top boxes and chromecasts are selling pretty well so obviously people are using them, but I guess there’s quite some people content with using a mediocre implementation, for as long as the api that’s used is supported by YouTube and Netflix. It probably depends on the kind of crowd you sample.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      Set top boxes if they ever sold well are very much declining in popularity as most TVs have the same OS preinstalled. Roku by itself comes pre-installed on almost 40% of new TVs https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/roku-claims-38-all-smart-tvs-sold-u-s-2020 https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/roku-claims-38-all-smart-t... Manufacturers have just started installing FireTV software. https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/devices/amazon-vp-shares-how-fire-tv-is-reimagining-the-largest-screen-in-your-home https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/devices/amazon-vp-shares-ho... And Google has been in the game for awhile with preinstalled Android.
      - tinus_hn 4y ago
        I’m not sure how references that show that smart TVs contain smart software support the claim that set top boxes are declining in popularity.
        scarface74 4y ago
        Are you going to buy a Roku stick if your TV already has built in Roku? Are you going to buy a TV with Amazon FireTV built in and then buy a Roku stick or vice versa?